Author Topic: 'toga party (Read 1879 times)

aussiebasser · « **on:** February 06, 2011, 03:59:27 PM »

119 very healthy Saratoga now call Lake Wivenhoe home. A couple of weeks ago, this spot was under 7 metres of water.

Binder · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:07:40 PM »

Nice to see, many toga gone in previously?

aussiebasser · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2011, 08:25:20 PM »

Enough have been stocked now that they should become a self sustaining population in both Wivenhoe and Somerset. Fingers crossed.

nagg · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2011, 08:32:44 PM »

Hi Dale

Any idea of how long they take to get to breeding size ?

Chris

aussiebasser · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2011, 08:35:56 PM »

Fitz would, I don't. Some that we released a few years ago were already breeding size. There are metre fish in Wivenhoe. The problem with 'toga is the cost. Having to compete with aquarium trade means we have been known to pay over $100 per fish so we can release them. These fish didn't cost that, and ranged from about 4" long to about 10" long.

bushwacker · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:21:55 PM »

Quote from: aussiebasser on February 06, 2011, 08:25:20 PM

Enough have been stocked now that they should become a self sustaining population in both Wivenhoe and Somerset. Fingers crossed.

Can you give me a rough estimate at how many that is dale ?

Steve

Fitzy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:12:56 PM »

Quote from: aussiebasser on February 06, 2011, 08:25:20 PM

Enough have been stocked now that they should become a self sustaining population in both Wivenhoe and Somerset. Fingers crossed.

I agree in regard to Somerset. If they're not established there they never should be.

Wivenhoe has only had 260 released in past couple of seasons. There were 36 put in like 20 years ago & these were established but there are none up the top of Wivenhoe. IMHO still more up the top & in feeder tributaries for them to properly establish.

Fitz..

BG · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:48:44 PM »

I was smashed off on a fly rod well up the Stanley some time ago. And I am putting it down to a Saratoga. Or an express train.

If that was the case then they do like the feeder creeks. Wish I had the time to check it further.

Gordon

Fitzy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2011, 11:22:04 PM »

Gordon, I've seen saratoga further upstream from your place. They're there....

Fitz..

BG · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2011, 07:25:14 AM »

Challenge accepted.

Gordon

Binder · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2011, 07:50:21 AM »

Plenty of Toga in the upper reaches of Somerset (well before the flood there was!), seen reasonably regular catches in the last couple of years before I resigned from the kilcoy club (IE - I no longer have access).

age to Breeding? about 4-5 years is what I have heard.

Pilly · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2011, 12:03:53 AM »

I love fishing for Toga and those fingerlings look great.
Just a quick question, why do they allow Toga to be stocked outside of there natural range?

Cheers
Pilly

Fitzy · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:16:13 AM »

Quote from: Binder on February 08, 2011, 07:50:21 AM

Plenty of Toga in the upper reaches of Somerset (well before the flood there was!), seen reasonably regular catches in the last couple of years before I resigned from the kilcoy club (IE - I no longer have access).

age to Breeding? about 4-5 years is what I have heard.

Maybe because we dropped a couple hundred right at the mouth of the bay where the Kilcoy FC access the lake.

Yep, 4-5 years should pull 'em up.

We also put adults up there, biggest was 92cm at time if release.

If they aren't breeding up the top of Somerset by now, they never will. We banged alot of them in there in a 5 year program, now its sit back n see time & focus on getting Wivenhoe's saratoga numbers up; pending funding.

fitz..

BG · « **Reply #13 on:** February 09, 2011, 07:53:45 AM »

I could not give you the numbers but every now and then one is caught and released by the Kilcoy club. At a guess probably 1 a month comes in.

Gordon

Fitzy · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2011, 04:03:38 PM »

Great info Gordon, thankyou.

It would be great to be given that sort of feedback from the Kilcoy Club (and other clubs as well).

Sadly often very little is forthcoming ........

Bet we'd hear more if no fish were getting caught, alot more. I'm happy to run with no news is good news....

fitz..

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