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New SIP funding allocation.
« on: February 26, 2017, 04:53:17 PM »
So, a working committee will gather to come up with ideas on how to allocate the SIP funding shortly. The old surface area and tick a box for popularity thing is gone.

So if that group of people were to read this what would you say on how you would like to allocate the monies to the new SIP scheme?

Me, couple of things.

- access to me must be included. If I can not access the water way due to private property or the need to have a secondary permit or membership then my voice would say you don't get my money. So an example of this is...1/ weirs that have locked gates and private property access only. 2/ Dams / lakes that only have access for say a limited area of bank. Then this is the area that should be taken into account not the whole surface are or volume. If I need to be a member of a secondary club or committee to access the lake then no fair play. You don't get my money.

- current stocking level. There is a formula that advises how may fish per hectares. What has been done in the past. Has monies be incorrectly channeled and the lake is under stocked or do I dare say it...over stocked.

- popularity. What users are currently seen using the water way. It is a put and take fishery right. The problem is how do you measure this?

Have few more but that should hopefully get the ball rolling.

What do you say or what do you want to be taken into consideration.


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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 08:18:55 AM »
Very good arguments there Steve.

I too have a view that restricted access is a deciding factor as well.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 12:13:05 PM »
Great subject Steve, according to the DAF Letter to Stocking Groups:  "From the list of 46 impoundments specified in the RIS, 31 have been added to the SIP scheme however the remaining 15 were not included for a variety of reasons.  These included
-The local Stocking Group withdrawing support for their original request
-Stocking Groups ceasing to operate
-The water storage owner objected to the change, or
-There was deemed to be inadequate public access for the impoundment to be included in the Scheme."

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 12:20:00 PM »
I did visit Bee Hive Dam, just out of Wallangarra on Saturday, which is one of the new impoundments added to the Scheme.  It's hard to miss the massive "Private Property" "Keep Out" signs on the gate to access the water.  I guess everyone just ignores them.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 05:34:41 PM »
So, a working committee will gather to come up with ideas on how to allocate the SIP funding shortly. The old surface area and tick a box for popularity thing is gone.




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Shouldn't of this been sorted out before all the changes occurred?

I'd like to see no funding to the restricted access locations. I also used enjoy not ticking the box next to npd due to their percieved "double dipping" in the past.

I don't envy the committee's position, whatever they end up deciding they are going upset someone.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 08:59:37 PM »
Here's a brain flash.  Lake Somerset has proven to be the most popular impoundment and has the most angling pressure.  Let's call it the benchmark and maximum size.  Whatever the hectares at full level is the maximum.  Any dams bigger are classed as the same size.  Add up the hectares of all the smaller dams, and add them to all the dams at the Somerset standard and get a total stocked Dam hectare total.  Take the funds received, deduct the 20% for admin and divide the total $ by total hectares to give a $/hectare rate.  All stocking groups receive the same $ per hectare rate.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2017, 04:14:31 AM »
Dales solution to my mind the only reasonable method.
If any dam reaches full stocking their funding should be reduced and the monies divided among other groups.
What is everyones thoughts about the monies to be used for other things?
To my mind that opens up a whole can of worms.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 06:51:53 AM »
No way, no how, should FFSAQ receive $50,000.00 funding from the SIP Scheme.  That $50,000.00 could stock a large proportion of the smaller dams rather than be wasted on paying someone to do a volunteer's job.  Stocking Group members do not get paid, or reimbursed expenses, why should someone who represents some of the Stocking Groups, and charges them for the privilege, receive extra funding?
Also, no way, no how, should Stocking Groups be able to use SIP Funds for anything other than stocking fish into their waters.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2017, 09:48:37 AM »
The new impoundments added to the scheme are;
•        Aplins Weir Townsville (North Queensland)
•        Caboolture River Weir, Caboolture (Moreton Bay)
•        Goondiwindi (Hilton) Weir, Goondiwindi
•        Miles Weir, Miles (Western Downs)
•        Baroon Pocket Dam, Maleny (Sunshine Coast)
•        Cecil Plains Weir, Cecil Plains (Toowoomba)
•        Hinze Dam, Gold Coast hinterland
•        Surat Weir, Surat (Maranoa)
•        Beebo Weir, Texas (Goondiwindi)
•        Chinchilla Weir, Chinchilla (Darling Downs)
•        Inglewood Town Weir, Inglewood (Goondiwindi)
•        Talgai Weir, Clifton (Southern Downs)
•        Beehive Dam, Wallangarra (Southern Downs)
•        Claude Wharton Weir, Gayndah (North Burnett)
•        Jones Weir, Mundubbera (North Burnett)
•        Whetstone Weir, Inglewood (Goondiwindi)
•        Ben Anderson Barrage, Bundaberg
•        Ewen Maddock Dam, Landsborough (Sunshine Coast)
•        Koombooloomba Dam, Ravenshoe (Tablelands)
•        Woodford Weir, Woodford (Sunshine Coast)
•        Ben Dor Weir, Inglewood (Goondiwindi)
•        Gill Weir, Miles (Western Downs)
•        Lake Belmore, Croydon (Gulf Savannah)
•        Wyaralong Dam, Beaudesert (Scenic Rim)
•        Black Weir, Townsville (North Queensland)
•        Gleeson Weir, Townsville (North Queensland)
•        Lake Kurwongbah, Petrie (South east Queensland)
•        Yarramalong Weir, Milmerran (Toowoomba)
•        Bonshaw Weir, Texas (Goondiwindi)
•        Glenarbon Weir, Texas (Goondiwindi)
•        Lemon Tree Weir, Millmerran (Toowoomba)

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2017, 04:32:44 PM »
Be interesting to see the make up of the committee.
The stocking assns will probably be outnumbered and their reps will have an unenviable job trying to get a fair go and trying to appease everyone as I think that different groups will have different opinions on what they wish to get out of the scheme.
I know it is pie in the sky but wouldn't it be great if the government were to forgo their management fee for a period. That way previous members of the scheme would not see a drastic drop in their funding.
Cannot see that happening with the white spot disease chewing up their resources and funds.
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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2017, 06:31:38 PM »
I have the make-up of the Committee at work, I'll post it tomorrow.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2017, 06:20:53 AM »
DAF is proposing that the nominal make-up of the working group will be as follows:
Two delegates from Freshwater Fishing and Stocking Association of Queensland
Six Stocking Association members selected from associations currently participating in the SIP program; and
Two Representatives from DAF

Steve Brooks is co-ordinating it all.

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2017, 07:31:29 AM »
Seems a good make up I was afraid that there would be more government representatives.
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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2017, 03:20:43 PM »
Brooksie's a good bloke

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Re: New SIP funding allocation.
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2017, 06:39:36 PM »
Don't say that to loud in here, he'll bloody hear you.

 

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