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Special Interest => Rods n Reels => Topic started by: Binder on January 14, 2011, 07:23:54 PM
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My kids love using my expensive baitcasters for bait fishing for bass. They love the one handed "push button and deploy bait" simplicity of them. I dont like my $300 reels being used by 10 year olds!
So I have been picking up a few cheap baitcasters for them.
I picked up one the other day on ebay for a few bucks, notionally a "Butterworth" brand, I figured I used to like old Len's rods, so I'd take the punt for the loot!
Nice little reel, a couple of bearings, magnetic brake, and a sliding switch.
The sliding switch intrigues me. It has "flipping" written next to it, and when you move it it seems to do weird things to the thumb bar, IE line is released when you press it down, but it wont lock down - as soon as you let it go the spool stops!
Now for the kids and their bait fishing this makes it even simpler! They dont even have to turn the handle to engage the reel!
But I am intrigued, what is it really used for?
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Binder, that is used for 'Flipping' soft plastic frogs and such into small pockets of cover. I love all my reels with flipper on, a quick underhand cast off the boat deck and drop the lure right up tight to cover, It is for close in work, not for long 'out of sight' casts. One advantage is stealthy casts with minimal weights for finicky fish.
Cheers Brad
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Binder,
Brad has it spot on!! :youbeauty If you google Flipping Cover in google you will see no end of video and explanation surrounding the technique. It is especially popular in America where it's used to work tight cover with soft plastic Creature baits etc and even jigs in some instances. Very popular and extremely effective in certain situations!
Colin
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Cheers fella's.
You do realise that means more expensive reels for me dont you? ;D
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I am interested in that one fellas. What sort of weight would you be getting down to when you say small plastic frogs.
I have limits to what I can cast with my gear. I find I have to fall back to spinning gear but don't enjoy them as much.
Gordon
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Binder, unfortunately most of the reels that still have Flipping options are VERY expensive to source locally. I hate to say it, but your best option maybe Cabelas or Bass Pro for some decent priced ones. I cherish my remaining Daiwa's with flipping switches, would hate to lose one.
Gordon, weights can come down to 1/8oz or so, like I said earlier, its more a ballistic lob than a cast and not a lot of weight required as the spool basically free runs as you let up on the thumb bar. Fiddling with the spool sidelash and magnetic brake will also help pitching light weights.
Cheers Brad
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Flipping switches are used mainly for pitch casting (as descrobed above). A flipping switch allows the thumb bar to be pressed down & it will pop back up on its own without needing to crank the handle.
Pitch casting is a delivery technique can be likened to under arm fly casting with a baitcaster for low trajectory deliveries, low splash, precise landing. Its not easy to master but well worth having in the anglers armoury. To do it well you need the right type of rod, stiffer than you'd normally use, many tend tp pull a pitch "up" with a whippy rod.
The flipping switch is also handy for deepwater jigging or flats fishing for bass. Crank crank & feed some line back to keep in better contact with the bottom.
In reality, I can do everything I need to do without a flipping switch. I recon its called that because you can occasionally hit the flipping thing in the heat of fishing a fish & can loose a fish or get a backlash.
My advise is to save your coin and get a regular reel & put the extra in your pocket.
Cheers,
fitzy..
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G'day,
The following link is a basic how to without the use of the flipping switch. Hope this helps :)
http://www.ehow.com/how_6592707_flip-baitcast-reel.html
Regards
Colin
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I think the daiwa viento has a similar flippin bar or some thing?
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Some one told me once that the yanks use the flippin bar to lob a lure tight into close snags, because you are quicker into gear to give you the best chance to survive a hit from a big fish that is lurking in there. Sounded like it happens a fair bit over there fishin for bass in the snags or something.
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I think the daiwa viento has a similar flippin bar or some thing?
Yeah I think they do Beau. Has anyone got one of these Diawa reels I have been thinking of buying one and wondered what they are like.
Thanks
Adrian
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G'day guys ,
I was in a tackleworld store a month ago & remember seeing a flipping reel . Had a quick look & thought that could be handy . But I cant remember what brand it was :o I've got an idea it was phflueger & from memory around the $300.00 mark
Cheers AL
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Hey fellas,
After yonks of observing thought I may as well throw up a post
The TD Viento's are pretty handy baitcasting reels IMO. I own one and run 15lb on it to chase Jacks. The flipping and pitching techinique is fairly recent to me so I could be wrong....but the Viento has a 'twitchin bar' as opposed to a 'flippin bar'. It retrieves probably 4 inches of line per hit. So does that mean it would do the opposite to what a flippin bar would do?? Like I said I could be way off the mark here as it's a pretty new concept to me.
What I do know is that for my style of fishing and probably most peoples style of fishing...the twitchin bar is pretty stupid and more of a gimmick than anything else. The reel itself though is awsome :thumbsup
Sam
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Sam, you have the basic idea.
The Fipping switch makes the thumb bar work opposite to normal. Push the thumb bar DOWN to stop line release.
The Viento Twitch bar is a handy option if you spend a lot of time working stick baits or floating softies like frogs.
Brad
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cheers for that Brad. Yea i find the twitching button itself can get in the way of my hand sometimes when i'm working lures aggressively..have no dramas 90% of the time though.
sam
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I agree with bunjee I bought a reel with a flipping switch years ago and at the time the yanks used them so that if you cast with your right hand it takes a few seconds to get the rod in your left hand at the end of the cast and then engage the reel. With the flippin swith on you hold your thumb on the spool when you cast, when it reaches your spot you take your thumb off the spool and if you get hit straight away you are automaticly in gear.
Dino
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You just need to cast with the correct hand Dino ;)
I'd forgotten about this reel, must dig around in the shed and dust it off for daughter for the winter bass season, it did turn out to be great for bait fishing for her.