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Title: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on May 24, 2015, 07:51:15 PM
Does anyone know whether Garfish is or are around in Wivenhoe Dam, either Logan's Inlet or Hays Inlet / Billies Landing, those latter ones one can only access if member of Sailing Club.

Shore based only.

Bondy99
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Binder on May 25, 2015, 05:34:01 AM
Somerset is full of them, so it would be a fair bet Wivanhoe is as well, but starting to get late in the year (they disappear in winter), you might be lucky.
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Brad H on May 25, 2015, 06:53:31 AM
When I was involved with Brisbane Valley Anglers many years back, we translocated hundreds of Gar from Somerset to Wivenhoe for DPI project. They were there in good numbers a few years later.
Theres a bit of an art to catching them, but involves Clothes pegs, Jatz Crackers and bread/dough and noodle rods.
Title: Re: Garfish in Wvenhoe?
Post by: Sweetwater on May 25, 2015, 10:08:13 AM
When I was involved with Brisbane Valley Anglers many years back, we translocated hundreds of Gar from Somerset to Wivenhoe for DPI project. They were there in good numbers a few years later.

Other way round mate, Lake Wvenhoe to Somerset.



Bondy, Yes there's Snub Nosed Gar in Wivenhoe.  :thumbsup

Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Brad H on May 25, 2015, 04:51:29 PM
 :Oops) advancing oldtimers  :thanks
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on May 25, 2015, 04:52:30 PM
Thanks for the reply people.

I'm planning to go up to Wivenhoe Dam next week before my SIP expires, purchased last year and never had use for it as yet.

Hopefully the snub nose gar will be around when I'm there. Early am and very little wind would be the best I'd think.

Would fresh dough be the go or tiny cuts of shrimp?


With regards to Somerset, not familiar with that one, being landbased, is there any particular spot I could try?

Thanks
 
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Binder on May 25, 2015, 05:59:06 PM
Burley up with bread, I find a tiny bit of shrimp catches more than bread does on the hooks, but bread does the job.
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: beau on May 25, 2015, 08:38:59 PM
I would just go with bread, when ever I'm out on the dam and I have a sandwich and don't eat the crust I pick it to pieces and chuck it over the side and the gar are like mini Mackerel just appearing out of no where attacking the left overs.
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Sweetwater on May 25, 2015, 10:48:07 PM
:Oops) advancing oldtimers  :thanks

Think I'm.......... oh look, a puppy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Sweetwater on May 25, 2015, 10:52:39 PM

With regards to Somerset, not familiar with that one, being landbased, is there any particular spot I could try?

Thanks

As with all Seqwater impoundments, shore based angling is permitted only from authorised recreation areas. So for Somerset that means The Spit, Kirkleagh or the boat ramp on Westvale Rd up the top of the lake.

 In saying that, I'd be fishing in Wivenhoe along Somerset Park camping area (below the dam wall), just stay out of the no fishing zone.

IMHO the gar fishing is generally better in Wivenhoe than Somerset.
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on May 25, 2015, 11:04:24 PM
Sweetwater,

Thanks for that info, you're probably right about the gar being more available in Wivenhoe than Somerset. Like most things, I've probably left it a bit a late to catch any.

What would be a better size and type of hook to use?

I've used size 10 hooks, still seems a bit big compared to the small mouths that gar have.

Bondy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: puglee62 on May 27, 2015, 12:54:05 PM
try size 12,unfortunately your going to have some swallow the hook right down though
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on May 27, 2015, 01:43:32 PM
@ puglee62.

Any particular place I can get these hooks from?

I looked at BCF, don't seem to have them that small.

Chemically sharpen, long shank I suppose.

Cheers, Bondy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: riverhunter on May 31, 2015, 06:39:55 AM
Big W at booval have small green anodized hooks perfect for this type of fishing they are mustard brand so its ok quality.
Cheers joseph
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on May 31, 2015, 01:10:57 PM
Big W and KMart at Logan Hyperdome don't stock them

One would have thought being a chain store it would stock the same , apparently not.

Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: schippy on June 16, 2015, 07:23:03 PM
Wivenhoe is full of them Logan's inlet is a good place but anywhere with gentle slopping banks is worth a try I have had a lot of fun catching them on plastics at Logan's Inlet.
Good luck
Schippy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on June 16, 2015, 11:37:07 PM
Are those Garfish still around in Winter?

Plastics? Could you describe what those plastics are please?

I've never heard of gar being caught on plastics until today.

Cheers, Bondy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Sweetwater on June 17, 2015, 12:18:44 AM
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Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on June 17, 2015, 12:42:01 AM
Ok, never had fished gar with plastics, always used fresh made dough or used prawns cut into small pieces, buggers 9 times out of 10 always get off the hooks I use.

Float I use might also be an issue. Is the float suppose to stay flat on the water surface, or dangle down as in when chasing luderick?

The pencil float I used always seem to stay on top of the water like a submarine.

Tempted to go to Wivenhoe Logans Inlet next week and give it ago but not until I get the basics sorted.  Any advice would be welcome.

Cheers, Bondy 
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: schippy on June 17, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
I think they are still around in winter maybe not as active the plastic i used was the tail of a white grub rigged on a small gar hook like you would use for bait as long as you keep it moving it smash it it may also be usefull to use a small float or small piece of foam as a float it seams to help get their attention
Schippy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on June 17, 2015, 11:39:56 PM
G'day Schippy,

Thanks mate.

I'll soon find out if they are or not. Early 6.00am , hopefully away from boating traffic and zero wind or well sheltered from the wind.

Plastics too complicated for me, I'll stick to fresh dough  and small cut prawns.

Bondy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: aussiebasser on June 18, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Boating traffic?  At Wivenhoe?  Ya gotta be jokin.
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: schippy on June 18, 2015, 06:44:35 PM
Good luck mate boat traffic shouldn't be a problem
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: puglee62 on October 01, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
sorry for the very very late reply Bondy,how did you go getting those hooks?,i think you can get the green mustad ones from BCF but your best bet for smaller odd size hooks is on fleabay,there is a guy on there who does cheap fly hooks and is very quick at processing/delivering them ,Ive got some i'll find out the brand for you
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on October 01, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
Did no good, had a few take the bait but no hook up.

I did go into BFC to see if those hooks were available, none at the time. They may not stock them any longer.

Cheers, Bondy99
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Brad H on October 02, 2015, 08:33:05 PM
I used #14 long shank fly hooks and bread kneeded back to dough, For a float the old wooden spring clothes peg, pop the timber bits off the spring, drill a small hole in the chamfered end, loop the leader through the hole and back over the 1/2peg to allow adjustment of depth. The tapered shape of the peg allows floatation without much resistance when they bites are light. A tiny coarse fishing style reuseable split shot for weight is all that needs to keep the dough down 2-4 inches.
BIG TIP...buy some cheap jatz/ritz crackers and crush them up as burley, the oil in them also flattens the ripples in the water allowing visual contact when the Gar are about to bite, cuts down on gut hooking.

Brad
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: bondy99 on October 02, 2015, 11:40:59 PM
Brad H,

I'm not a fly fisherman , whereabouts did you buy those fly hooks from?

Thanks, Bondy
Title: Re: Garfish
Post by: Brad H on October 03, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
Bondy. Certainly not from any of the chain stores. For good specialty items try Charltons at Redbank if your a westy, or Tackle Warehouse if you are on the eastern/middle part of Brissie. Otherwise you will see them from time to time on evilbay.