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General Category => Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Sweetwater on July 28, 2013, 12:25:01 PM
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A few of us went down to fish the NSW / Qld border waters.
Water at Texas too dirty so we made the call to move upstream looking for clearer waters.
Ended up at a crossing on the upper Dumaresq River for the night, which was damn cold by the way.
Next morning drove to another road to launch....we noted a new sign on the gate saying "PRIVATE PROPERTY - KEEP OUT". As this IS a public road we ingnored the signs and we down to launch, closing the gate behind us. Within minutes we had a local chase us down there tell us we were trespassing & to get out. After a discussion on boundaries and telling the local they probably should call police if they had an issue she backed down (the intimidation didn't work) and told us it was ok to launch there and we were welcome to call up to the house to let them know if we were going there in future. After that she tore off across the river crossing almost getting her car stuck & swamped. While I was pulling gear out to get the snatch strap out she managed to free herself and went up to the property on the NSW side of the river, the road on the NSW side is a TSR by the way.
We launched and went upstream towards the a creek junction.
After paddling / walking the kayaks up a couple of shallow sections on the creek we were pulled up by a bloke on a motorbike yelling & swearing at us from further downstream. Paddled back to talk to the guy who wouldn't even give his name or identify himself. He was adamant that by being on the water we were tresspassing & apparently we'd told the woman earlier to f off. (It's obvious now where she was heading across river in a hurry) Said he owns the land and the creek and also has a lease on the TSR. He then inclined that they were hunting on the propertry and that we might end up with a bullet....take that threat any way you want, we will find out what the authorities think of it this week.
He also told us all about this research program on the cod in the area after telling him I've been attending it since the start he realised I knew more about it than him he changed the subject and started talking guns again (more intimidation). Has anyone ever heard of a 300 Magnum? New to me but apparently we were in danger of being shot by one..... :Hunting)
Realising he had us at a distinct advantage, we asked if we could have his "permission" to stay on the creek, he demanded we immediately get off his creek altogether, again mentioning the threat of getting shot.
We left, packed up and came home, you never know where or when those "stray bullets" might end up...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Winchester_Magnum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Winchester_Magnum)
Lots of rednecks out that way. Sounds like a safe choice to leave.
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Thanks for the update
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That sux Garry, it is a shame that some people feel that way, however he has probably had to deal with a lot of people who do not do the right thing.
Cheers Andrew
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I can't share any more info relating to this matter as it is now under investigation by the relvant authorities. However I can pass on from relevant authorities I spoke to that if you are in a similar situation in NSW waterways, you are NOT acting illegally and cannot be threatened, intimidated or forced to leave..... As long as you access the waterway lawfully and don't leave the beds and banks of the waterway you are not acting illegally, trespassing etc
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Time we all invested in gopro cameras. Just turn it on when confronted. They'll end up shooting themselves in the foot first.
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That sux Garry, it is a shame that some people feel that way, however he has probably had to deal with a lot of people who do not do the right thing.
Cheers Andrew
Agreed Andrew,
I have no doubt that the aggressor has had some run ins with people in the past, but that doesn't justify his incorrect assumptions about us, nor his actions. Also i bet he hasn't dealt with anyone like me before either in that I occasionally follow up on things like this, and in this instance already have and will continue to do so.
A real shame from all angles that these things happen and can't be quickly resolved. Imagine if he did that to the type of person who might have acted a bit differently or decided to ( as he did) to take the law into their own hands??
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A 300magnum is not the sort of thing most hunters over there would not need, It's massive overkill for goats, deer and pigs. There are a few variations of that calibre. It sounds to me like he was going for the full monty as far as intimidation is concerned. MY dealings with most landholders over there have been good, but there's always the exception. Be interested in hearing the outcome. May have been worried about you finding his droppers.
JD
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Squuuuueeeel like a pig
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Squuuuueeeel like a pig
Does anyone hear banjo music??
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300 Mag is a popular pig round
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Does anyone hear banjo music??
There you go JD
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Would you be annoyed if someone was in your yard hunting cane toads for instance ? Probably
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Would you be annoyed if someone was in your yard hunting cane toads for instance ? Probably
Absolutely, however we weren't in his yard hunting toads. We were on a public water course owned by the state of NSW, not on his property & most certainly not in his yard. There's a difference....
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Well no dramas , just checking . I know some people get annoyed just being insight of there back fence.. My best advice , steal their letter box, when they get a new one put the old one beside it
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At least if you hear banjo's they have not got the shottie(or the 300 mag) :Hunting)
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FYI off the top of my head there is .300 weathaby mag .300 winchester mag and .300 WSSM ( winchester super short magnum) all belted magnum cases.
Can feel the win mag after 3 shots :OMG
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Legitimate rec fisher access to crown waterways and I'd go as far to say within grazing leasehold land (which is not meant to extinguish other legitimate users access options) - is where rec fishing peak body groups and political bodies such as the Shooters and fishers party should be expending their efforts re; maintaining and improving access rights for fishers and shooters cf. the BS campaigns targeting access to National Parks and generating 'bloody greenie lockouts' rhetoric with regard to legitimate aquatic protected area needs IMHO :popcorn)
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FYI off the top of my head there is .300 weathaby mag .300 winchester mag and .300 WSSM ( winchester super short magnum) all belted magnum cases.
Can feel the win mag after 3 shots :OMG
Let's not forget the great 300 Holland and Holland. They all rose from that, especially the Weatherby.
JD
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There you go JD
Thanks Fitzy, I feel better now.
JD
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Scary report Fitsy, that sort of rubbish would leave a fella churned up and ruin a weekend.
Sounds like you handled it well.
Gordon
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Did anyone have a 4G phone or better? l would have called the police immediately. C:-)
F..ken bogan rednecks.... :-X
Barney. :D
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Next thing ya know we'll be attaching halsters to the kayaks along with our rod holders.
You made the right choice I think boys! Dave made a great point, capturing the confrontation on video will always stand up in court over hear say. :youbeauty
Dave
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A 300magnum is not the sort of thing most hunters over there would not need, It's massive overkill for goats, deer and pigs..........
l'll say.
Maybe he had a very very small willy??? Bwahahahahaaaa!!
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300 Mag is a popular pig round
from 1979 to 1987 l shot literally hundreds of pigs [for sale] using 223 , 6.5swedish mauser , and a k98 mauser in 30/06 built by Petzl [?]
the 6.5 was rough as guts , cheek rest glued onto stock , brand new original barrel , Pecar scope etc.
you could almost hear the porkers sayin their prayers when the Swede was pointed out the ute window lol
ahh those were the days :)
Barney
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Hey Barney, Was that the Petzl that used to work for Jack Hochstadt down in the Haymarket is Sydney years ago? He was a bloody good gunsmith.
John
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Yes John thats him. great bloke , very stern and humourless , but an awesome gunsmith :)
i had a heavily modified Sako in 17Rem that he re-barrelled 3 times over 8yrs and once he asked me 'So why you wear out so many barrels?" and l said 'coz l shoot lots of fox and cat' and deadpan he replied 'That is many fox and cat".... funny man :)
all my light-mid calibre rifles had 28" barrels. l had a Shiloh Sharps in 45/70 with a 32" [?] barrel great fun on pigs/deer but heavy! :)
Barney.
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Mate I ran across a dingo trapper in Western Australia near Murchison once who had one of those Sharps, I suggested it may be a little heavy for the dogs, and he agreed, "but the camels hate it," was all he said.
JD
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l bet they did :D
wonderful guns though , big solid falling block , peep sights , kick like a howitzer lol
i miss my Sharps :)
Barney.
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Any word back from authorities in regards to this Fitzy?
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Any word back from authorities in regards to this Fitzy?
None actually. I've had a few calls from blocked numbers lately. But considering I don't answer blocked numbers, it could be my fault. But you'd think they would leave a message.
I might call them.....