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Author Topic: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.  (Read 26806 times)

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 06:20:45 AM »
Aussiebasser You quoted me, then went on to have a go at me for things I never said, I never mentioned anything about the current Sips charges. I was referring to future schemes and thier adminisrtaion costs.

Fitzy you quoted me, then seemed to imply that I wanted to overstock NPD. Well I to like a trophy fishery but these fish have to come from somewhere.

Both you gents were very quick to jump on me for things I never said, am I missing something here.

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2011, 06:45:00 AM »
Unfortunately the thought of paying $100 to catch Gar, Tilapia and Redclaw put me off applying this year.  Anyone interested in an 11ft Tinny?

Norm
you forgot about the yellas,silvers,toga,MRC and  bass stocked by the stocking group.
Same as the people who bag Wivenhoe for its forkies.
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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2011, 08:14:03 AM »
Thankgoodness  we don't have the same system here in NSW   :thumbsup

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2011, 10:19:41 AM »
Thankgoodness  we don't have the same system here in NSW   :thumbsup

Aren't Sydney's main water supply dams just closed off to the public?

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2011, 04:17:47 PM »
I think they are ,
But there are many Lakes / Dams all over NSW  that are open to fishing / Boating  Rec use all year , one simple licence covers them all .   8)

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 07:43:37 PM »
I think they are ,
But there are many Lakes / Dams all over NSW  that are open to fishing / Boating  Rec use all year , one simple licence covers them all .   8)
As there are in Qld some of which are completely free you do not even need a stocked impoundment permit. The beauty of North pine is that it is a trophy bass fishery within 30 minutes of the CBD.
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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2011, 10:22:40 PM »
I've never understood why they wouldn't make the whole dam area accessible to BAS holders.  It is rather stupid that 80% of the dam is effectively off limits. This is the system though and we need to abide by it, but still.  I guess if they did open it up they would need to add more ramps and there is a cost to this.  Also it is probably the insurance factor as well that makes the difference.  I think these days there is no room for common sense and people are not being held accountable for their own safety.  There is a point to which the Govt. is responsible but after that it should be up to the user to shoulder the responsibility for thier own safety.

I actually don't think I will go for the BAS permit this year.  I went to the dam twice to fish it last year.  I am happy to work with and support the PRFMA but it would just be a waste of money(for me that is).

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2011, 07:28:23 AM »
As there are in Qld some of which are completely free you do not even need a stocked impoundment permit. The beauty of North pine is that it is a trophy bass fishery within 30 minutes of the CBD.
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So at days end , this SIP here,  is just a fee for the privilege .

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2011, 08:12:52 AM »
So at days end , this SIP here,  is just a fee for the privilege .
No, our SIP (Stocked Impoundment Permit) is a limited license system for some impoundments in Queensland.  The Stocking Groups for these impoundments can apply to DEEDI for inclusion in the scheme.  Anglers can tick a preference when they purchase the permit to direct their money at particular dams.  Of the money paid, 15% is retained by DEEDI for administration and 85% is given back to the volunteer stocking groups for the specific purpose of buying fingerlings to release into the dams.  As an example, Somerset and Wivenhoe Fish Stocking Association Inc. received in excess of $100,000 last year from this system.  It is probably one of the best permit systems for freshwater impoundments in the world.  The boating permit is not connected with this.  Some owners of dams insist that a fee be paid for use of the resource.  It can be as simple as a $2 coin in a boom gate like at Cressbrook Dam, or as complicated as the boating permit ballot at Lake Samsonvale (North Pine Dam).  At some dams the money is collected by and used by the controlling company, (Somerset and Wivenhoe) while others are administered by the local stocking group (North Pine and Hinze)

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2011, 08:28:42 AM »
So i take it , that it's a one off fee that covers all areas that requires an SIP  ??????   

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2011, 08:41:50 AM »
Yep, $35 per year, or available weekly

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2011, 08:48:10 AM »
Thanks for that , at first i  had the impression that you had to pay a seperate SIP fee for each impoundment .

the system is not really different to having a licence fee,  like here in NSW  , Maybe better as most of the fee goes back into the waterways   :youbeauty

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2011, 11:00:04 AM »
Of the money paid, 15% is retained by DEEDI for administration and 85% is given back to the volunteer stocking groups for the specific purpose of buying fingerlings to release into the dams. 

I think it's 75% back to fish restocking & 25% Admin cost.

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2011, 08:58:40 AM »
you forgot about the yellas,silvers,toga,MRC and  bass stocked by the stocking group.
Same as the people who bag Wivenhoe for its forkies.
Cheers
Ray

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I know these species are stocked but show me consistent photos or reports of these catches (by lure or fly especially) and I'll happily re-new my permit. But with only a small part of the dam open to boating and the lack of fish in recent times doesn't convince me to run out and spend $100 on a permit. I'll just put up with fishing Lake K for those elusive Toga (hooked one for about 1/10 second on a Dahlberg yesterday >:() in the meantime.

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Re: Boating Access permit North Pine Dam 2011/2012.
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2011, 07:56:58 PM »
So i take it , that it's a one off fee that covers all areas that requires an SIP  ??????

Its better than that, while you do get to fish all the SIP dams, you also get to nominate which dam the majority of your own fee gets spent on. So you can nominate your own local.

 

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