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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: aussiebasser on December 15, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
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Was talking to a bloke today, and found out about a suggestion from some anglers and people in the tackle trade to increase the price of a SIP to $50 a year. At the current 85% rate that should see an additional $12.75 per permit go to the volunteer stocking groups who maintain the fishery. What are your thoughts on this?
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Every other bill is going up , why not !! Electricity, fuel , rates , rego , ....etc. ;)
Seriously , $35/yr I always thought to be a bargain anyway.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Agree with you Dave
However dont want to see that on top of the propsed cash grab of 70-90 $$$$ thats muted
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As long as there was a decent pensioner discount that would be ok by me. (Actually maybe should be like NSW, pensioners free)
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I would be fine with it, If it does go through and you do purchase a yearly pass just be sure to get as many of your fishing trips worth out of it as you can.
Still beats buying a weekly !
Steve
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Then again , at $35/yr that may already raise enough money for most groups to stock at the allowable densities set by the water authorities.
Cheers,
Dave.
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I have no problem with the SIP scheme at all, but as I'm south of the border, I don't fish impoundments all that much so I'm better off buying weekly. MY preference is still for fishing rivers and estuaries. For some reaason the dams just don't get me all that excited. However the dams can be a great fall back when the big rains come and you can't get into the rivers. A $40 yearly ticket would be OK.
JD
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I recon $50 is a good figure. But the cap on impoundment sizes would need to be lifted as some smaller lakes already are at maximum stocking densities. Wouldn't want to see excess fees collected going into consolidated revenue.
fitz..
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I recon $50 is a good figure. But the cap on impoundment sizes would need to be lifted as some smaller lakes already are at maximum stocking densities. Wouldn't want to see excess fees collected going into consolidated revenue.
fitz..
A good point to concider as a few dams have quiet a number of fish stocked in them already that dont have spillways like the big w
Steve
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Then again , at $35/yr that may already raise enough money for most groups to stock at the allowable densities set by the water authorities.
Cheers,
Dave.
What about having more funds to be able to buy grown out fish - (eg Barra) so rather than 50mm fish going in you might put in 200 - 300mm - they cost more but the survival rate would be better .
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What about having more funds to be able to buy grown out fish - (eg Barra) so rather than 50mm fish going in you might put in 200 - 300mm - they cost more but the survival rate would be better .
DEEDI have recommended sizes for release of fingerlings which SIP controlled Stocking Groups must follow. SWFSA don't stock Barra, so I'm not sure what that size is. From memory, Bass, Yellas and Silvers are 40-50mm.
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What about having more funds to be able to buy grown out fish - (eg Barra) so rather than 50mm fish going in you might put in 200 - 300mm - they cost more but the survival rate would be better .
A valid point Chris. This is one strategy already used by some groups for barra and cod. And, it has potential to work with other species in lakes with a high predator numbers eg Mouth Almighty & Fork Tailed Catfish. Dr Michael Hutchison has done some research on this & has set down some recommendations for minimum sizes for fingerlings.
Kurt has another strategy in regard to time of year / season for release, but I will leave that for him to explain.
There's a balance that needs to be met, with consideration given to available budget, existing stocking density/history, predators present, suitable cover for fingerlings, desired stocking density, fish availability etc...
Cheers,
fitz..
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I've been getting a fair bit of feedback on restocking, but mainly on what goes into open streams. With regard to Bass some are being put into the water only a couple of cm long, and in my unscientific opinion that's far too small. It seems that some of the breeders supplying the fish are getting a little hungry. They should not go into the river until they have a fair chance of survival. ONe female Bass drops around 300,000eggs and there is obvious attrition at work. no restocker releases that many in one hit as far as I know so they have to be of a decent size. If the SIP payment increase addresses this, I have no problem.
JD
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I agree with a $40 permit and would also like to see it a requirement to fish in any stream that is stocked, this would slow down the white bucket brigade.
Dino
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On the other hand would you think that a SIP fee rise would put off a few half hearted fishos at all ?
Its out there but it could equal a little less fishing pressure ?
Steve
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I've been getting a fair bit of feedback on restocking, but mainly on what goes into open streams. With regard to Bass some are being put into the water only a couple of cm long, and in my unscientific opinion that's far too small. It seems that some of the breeders supplying the fish are getting a little hungry. They should not go into the river until they have a fair chance of survival. ONe female Bass drops around 300,000eggs and there is obvious attrition at work. no restocker releases that many in one hit as far as I know so they have to be of a decent size. If the SIP payment increase addresses this, I have no problem.
JD
SIP funds do not go into stocking any rivers, apart from the escape of fish during water releases and overflows. The SIP scheme is set up to provide a put and take fishery where the released fish do not breed, they are provided for recreational anglers to catch a feed of fish. Stocking of rivers to regenerate fish populations should be looked at in a completely different way.