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General Category => News Views & Press Releases => Topic started by: bushwacker on June 30, 2011, 01:05:33 PM
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It seems like Wyaralong dam is now no more than a giant puddle.
Talk a week or so ago told listeners that the government didn't expect the dam to fill so quickly and hadn't expected it to for some number of years. The water pipeline has been mothballed for now.
I have not contacted the stocking group for this dam as yet like my intentions where so am not aware of what fingerling's or when they put them in, Slack i know.
Just a snippet of what came in the Beaudesert times (backup sh$t rag)
Steve
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There was an article about this in the Courier mail a month or so ago . Its only the $200 million pipeline which was to link the dam to the water grid , which has been put on the backburner for a few years . Which means this dam's only purpose is to run water down the Logan River . Money well spent by Ana and her mates again . At least there is an actual dam there now , that Traverston debacle cost $600 million and we got nothing !!!
As to stocking , heard a few rumours as to a stocking group gaining momentum in what to put in there.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Wich stocking groups have you heard of Dave ? I heard a whisper about one that i was going to look into but if its the same crew as a few years ago the dam is doomed.
It is still a good source of water for the logan river and should see an influlx of new fish in the system after a purge in a few years wich would be good. Someone said to me "Its going to be the biggest carp dam in queensland" ..... possibly if they dont get a hurry on or havent allready.
Bligh cracks me up........
Steve
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Wich stocking groups have you heard of Dave ? I heard a whisper about one that i was going to look into but if its the same crew as a few years ago the dam is doomed.
Steve
The guy's who stock the upper Logan River are or have applied for a management plan to stock Wyaralong and there talking about putting 1000's of Mary River Cod in there :thumb
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Kerry Hall
Wednesday 13th of July
Time not sure, could find out if you want to go.
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Yeah blokes who are going to stock it are looking at a cod fishery.
Will take a while to establish, both from a cost of fingerlings and availability of fingerlings view.
Be worth it in the end though I reckon.
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How good would it be if this dam turned into a trophy Mary river cod fishery !! We will be spoiled for choice in SE QLD for sure , especially as there are some great Bass and Yella dams within a stone's throw of that place .
Cheers,
Dave.
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The same mob that have the MRC idea have tried stocking a fair few elsewhere .. word got out about it and yeah ... end of that topic.
MRC could be a half a hint at the solution to controlling carp a bit. Thanks StevenM are you going ?
Steve
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Overstocking MRCs ends up with high mortality & stunted fish. The balance would be a hard thing to get right; monitoring essential.
A good concept....not all lakes need to be all things to all people.
Pipeline debacles? Ask some question about the great shite pipe to Wivenhoe that's never been used, or the piddle feed pipeline from Wivenhoe to Cressbrook. Wouldn't it be ironic (after the plebiscite in Toowoomba) if the shite pipe to Wivenhoe was hooked into the pipe to Cressbrook..........
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I wonder what their strange facination with building expencive but useless pipelines are
about...
Steve
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The same mob that have the MRC idea have tried stocking a fair few elsewhere .. word got out about it and yeah ... end of that topic.
MRC could be a half a hint at the solution to controlling carp a bit. Thanks StevenM are you going ?
Steve
Nah mate I cant to Wednesdays of any kind. Have my takker with me. Normally the meeting would be the first Wednesday of the month but with the SOO on the 6th they put it back a week.
Jeff the drunkin sailor will be there
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Overstocking MRCs ends up with high mortality & stunted fish. The balance would be a hard thing to get right; monitoring essential.
A good concept....not all lakes need to be all things to all people.
Pipeline debacles? Ask some question about the great shite pipe to Wivenhoe that's never been used, or the piddle feed pipeline from Wivenhoe to Cressbrook. Wouldn't it be ironic (after the plebiscite in Toowoomba) if the shite pipe to Wivenhoe was hooked into the pipe to Cressbrook..........
There's still a farmer at Lowood laughing about being paid $120,000 to rent his 10 acres for storage of pipes while they built the thing. I think the minimum was $1200 to every property owner that the pipeling touched as well. And then, apparently, two things happened. One was that the pumping system wasn't strong enough to pump the recyled water up there. Two, because of all the water restrictions and the rediculously huge price increases for water, people stopped wasting it, so not enough liquid was going through the sewer pipes with the err.... let's say solids, for the recyling system to work properly. Don't you love seeing you taxes at work?
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Go to the meeting Steve if you can, some nice blokes in the group. Some of them involved in freshwater stocking since its inception.
Also been working on removal of Luscomb weir for decades.
Despite the efforts of the local consanguineous cretins the MRC stocking has had some success.
Need some keen young blokes to get involved.
cheers
Steve
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Ok guys you convinced me to go to the meeting, suppose it would help having someone on here to let everyone know what goes on a bit. I did not know about their efforts to have the luscombe wier removed Steve but interesting.
Do you normally go to their meetings StevenM or just know about them?
Wyaralong is actually on its opening day today 1st of july so if anyone wants to go for a paddle without a rod to have a look around give me a hoy I can throw a rock and hit it from my front yard.
Cheers
Steve
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No
Just fish off private property on the Albert. One of the guys is involved in it. He advised last weekend the dates for the July meeting.
As I said, jeff the drunkin sailor mad bikie wanna be will be there.
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I reckon i know who your talking about Steven.
Went for a last minute paddle over there this arvo its a pretty dam with an average depth of roughly 30 to 40ft in some places 70ft. Photos to come.
Steve
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Here are some pics sorry for the bad quality they where off my phone.
The facilities there are pretty flash, the boat ramp is awefull long with a very small turning point halfway on the 70 or so yard ramp, there is a bit of parking at the top of the ramp and around the top side of the park wich is a one way road.
There is pretty limited launching options for kayakers unless you havea C-Tug trolley or catch the ram at a quiet time and drive down the ramp to launch.
Steve
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Hmmmmm
Anyone heard any other news?
http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/the-sip-funding (http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/the-sip-funding)
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As far as I know, they are not currently part of the SIP scheme. If reasonable public access is given, and fishing promoted as an activity on the dam, I don't see why they shouldn't be permitted to take part though.
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Dale are you reffering to the stocking group or the dam ? I sense something will be said soon.
Steve
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Normally, a Stocking Group would apply for the dam to become part of the SIP Scheme. I'm not sure what the criteria is for being admitted to the scheme but I'm guessing that's the intention with this group. They've put some details on their web site. Are they the group responsible for stocking the Dam, or are they intending to apply for the role?
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Just wait and see Dale, ::)
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Based upon time I spent on the FMAC and the intent of the SIP when it was setup, Wyralong Dam won't be permitted to join the SIP until the dam/lake is an established stocked fishery.
The SIP is more a maintenance scheme as opposed to a way to create a fishery from scratch. ie take a fish out & your fees replace the fish you took. Considering the time it takes to get a legal sized fish, with an alternative user pays system, you would need to pay your SIP licence for a year or two before being allowed to actually go fishing for the fish you payed for to be legal size.....
SIP Selection Criteria
There is yet ot be any set selection criteria for what impoundments should or should not be permitted to join the scheme. I wrote a guideline as a discussion starting point for the FMAC & the SIP Subcomittee some time back, but nothing firm was ever put in place. It annoys me that the selection criteria is more about the personal oppinion of who ever happens to be in the meeting on the day its decided....Now its just fisheries dept call & for the life of me who in DEEDI that is I've not been told.... poor transparency & not remotely consistent IMHO. I'm happy to be corrected on the above if someone can prove otherwise. :thumbsup
Attachments
1- Original draft selection criteria attached FYI
2- (from the time of writting) Shows where individual impoundments would be on that system
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You do make a valid point and i always thought the main reason for the sip permit was to replace fish stocks taken out of the selected impoundments.
By god all this politicle side is a cofuffle.
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Fitzy.
Thanks for informative post.
Cheers
Ray
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Early days yet but but I hope the functioning fishway, ie the carp lift which is proving as effective as predicted wont be an issue.
My understanding of the criteria for inclusion in SIPS is an impoundment with a functioning fishway is not eligible.
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WOW thanks guys, I didn't know any of that, it makes perfect sense, thank you.
A local group that used to be Carpbusters stated on their old site that they had applied to stock the dam, though I don't know the circumstances, their new site is at ---
http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/home (http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/home)
they are having an AGM on Sep 7, advertised in the local paper, there is a mention of Wyaralong in the classified add, hopefully something positive, or at least progress might be announced.
I heard a good rumour months ago that a few guys were trying to form a seperate stocking group soley for Wyaralong, but I havent heard anymore.
Fingers crossed, something will eventually happen with enough support.
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Just to clarify.....
The SIP selection criteria I attached in previous post was what "I" wrote & submitted to the SIP Committee & Fisheries Dept as a suggested starting point. This has NOT been adopted, not is it a reflection of official policy. Simply my attempt to get those in decision making postions to come up with an official selection criteria......which they have yet to accomplish I'm sorry to say. ::)
fitz..
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Had me worried Fitz :-[
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SIP Selection Criteria
There is yet ot be any set selection criteria for what impoundments should or should not be permitted to join the scheme. I wrote a guideline as a discussion starting point for the FMAC & the SIP Subcomittee some time back, but nothing firm was ever put in place
I thought that made it quite clear, I don't know where or how any confusion could have come about.....
Anyhow, like I said, there is still no clear selection criteria for joining the SIP scheme. I'd like to read the response should someone apply > be rejected > ask why? I recon a system based on person preference or gut feeling is beyond laughable, rather is embarrasing.
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So how many are too many...?
If every impoundment was allowed to join the Stocked Impoundment Scheme, wouldn't that destroy the impoundment fishing ?? People seem to think that by joining the SIP that they will get $5,000 - 50,000 out of thin air...there is not 10,000 anglers out there waiting to buy a SIP because a new impoundment has come on line.
With the 4000ha rule, the bigger dams will lose the most, if more dams are added to the SIP..
You can only cut the pie so many times till it's gone..!
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update on the stocking groups Logan and Albert Fish mob site?
http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/lafma-and-wyaralong-dam (http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/lafma-and-wyaralong-dam)