General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lantana on September 01, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
Title: Mary River Cod
Post by: lantana on September 01, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
Is it just me or am I getting old and cranky,Two fish Im passionate about is Saratoga & Mary River Cod, I know sometimes you catch a M R Cod as a by catch but I never remove them from water and would never post pics of them
yet once again I see on another forum a beautiful M R Cod held with the help of lip grips and taken to the bank for a brag mat photo
But like I said maybe Im just getting old and cranky
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: aussiebasser on September 01, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
It's not just you mate.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: jordo on September 01, 2014, 08:32:21 PM
Totally agree. I'm not a fan of how alotof people pose with bass and not supporting them. Especially bigger bass. I know they are different but just think hanging onto them by the jaw especially kinking it back can't be that great.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: elops on September 01, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
Which forum ? don't they have a rule about posting illegal fishing most do.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: mackdonalds on September 02, 2014, 05:59:06 AM
Is it just me or am I getting old and cranky,Two fish Im passionate about is Saratoga & Mary River Cod, I know sometimes you catch a M R Cod as a by catch but I never remove them from water and would never post pics of them
yet once again I see on another forum a beautiful M R Cod held with the help of lip grips and taken to the bank for a brag mat photo
But like I said maybe Im just getting old and cranky
:Clap) :Clap)
I really hope Qld B&F see that post and make very good example of that clown. The really stupid bit is there quoting the regulation but still saying what a hero the guy is. It is not the first time that particular forum has been under the spot light for doing the exact same thing and I think a member on here tried to nicely point out what the op had done wrong and what the reg's were, and the Mods on that forum threaten to pull his post because they claimed it was off topic.
Makes me sick to my stomach to see those type of photo's.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: lantana on September 02, 2014, 07:17:00 AM
Which forum ? don't they have a rule about posting illegal fishing most do.
Its not the forum as Im a member and I stand by them they are a great bunch of people and its not about illegal fishing as i dont think the Cod was targeted its about protecting a native fish that facing an up hill battle surviving in the wild, so if you catch one as a by catch then enjoy the moment release it quick and dont encourage the boof heads by posting photos, thats all im saying I live a stones throw from the Mary River and its catchment and I see this all the time from locals, maybe its an Ego thing for some people As I said in my first post maybe Im getting old and cranky
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: elops on September 02, 2014, 11:39:54 AM
Spawning season has already begun first fish in the hatchery spawned last Wednesday/ Thursday. One of the nesting sites in the catchment that is monitored and closely guarded by the landowner had a male on it on last Saturday. Lip gripping and taking a Cod to the bank putting it on the mat and holding for a photo will most likely cause a male to abandon the nest if it is guarding, or a female if close to spawning reabsorb her eggs and not spawn. NSW has a total closure to protect Eastern Cod and a closed season to protect Murray Cod in spawning season. But meanwhile in QLD.................we have an ever increasing amount of fishing effort in MRC habitat which with the change in the Bass regs has increased considerably this season and no closed season at all for Murray Cod with the exception of the border Rivers.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: lantana on September 02, 2014, 03:40:40 PM
Oh Dear Iv upset a few people but thats ok, we need to inform people especially in the spawning season and some lessons will be learnt
Now grazing cattle right down to the waters edge, Well thats another matter for another time
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: Sweetwater on September 02, 2014, 07:36:21 PM
I found that being a f#%ktard is often only curable by death; in that they wont change until they die. :walkplank
Maybe it's just poor genetics or small penis syndrome that drives people to target protected fish.
:popcorn)
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: elops on September 02, 2014, 08:11:02 PM
Just read through the thread Eric, an interesting read................................................
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: lantana on September 02, 2014, 09:18:31 PM
What really gets under my skin is so called locals in my neck of the woods that will take people to catch a MRC knowing its a nesting spot , I have had a few run ins with dickheads on the Mary River
oh well better times ahead im off to the land of never ending Toga, in the morning
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: elops on September 02, 2014, 09:35:41 PM
Good luck on the Toga hunt Eric your timing should be perfect mine are just starting to get active.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: Lure-Nut on September 03, 2014, 07:47:39 AM
Understand the sentiments above having not seen the picture in question. Was fortunate to catch this nice Mary River Cod in Somerset a season or two ago, was a surprise catch not really a by catch, fish was quickly landed in an environet, quick pic taken supporting the weight of the fish then released off the side of the boat in a shower of spray.
Yep, I wanted a pic of the fish, it was my first Mary River Cod be it a stocked impoundment fish or not and all completed without overly stressing the fish - sure, I could have released it in the water and foregone the pic but didn't and probably wouldn't do any different again - it's a wonderful memory for me of a top days fishing with a mate in the pouring rain ;D
Yes, I'm getting old, bitter and twisted as well, but do believe there is a sensible middle ground.
Cheers
Rob
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: aussiebasser on September 03, 2014, 08:37:48 AM
That's a nice fish Rob. The fish in Somerset are not protected, and I would say that most that are caught up there are kept. There's nothing wrong with what you did. With regard to the guy originally posted about, he now realises that he did the wrong the thing, and I hope that he doesn't start targeting them where he shouldn't.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: mackdonalds on September 03, 2014, 11:28:06 AM
A quick question...
Very soon there will be any access point/boat ramp in the top of Somerset Dam, some of the locals are thinking about taking there boats over there when it opens. Where is the cut off between Somerset Dam and the Stanley River up there and is it signed ? I can see a few people may suddenly fall fowl of the law :Hunting)
Cheers
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: aussiebasser on September 03, 2014, 11:45:51 AM
The Stanley river is open for fishing for Marys as far as I can tell. It's above the wall of Lake Somerset.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: Sweetwater on September 03, 2014, 12:55:44 PM
As AB said above. MRCs are not protected upstream of the Somerset dam wall, actually anywhere upstream of Wivenhoe dam. Bag and size limits apply. Should they be protected upstream of Somerset Dam? In my opinion absolutely...!!!
Where should a line be drawn? I could advise DAFF and B&FP of best location (but prefer not to publicly share that info), but they will be looking for a landmark to attach a demarcation line to. C:-) So I would suggest either Villeneuve Bridge or the junction of Mary Smokes Creek.
On the Upper Brisbane River? There is little point as much of this river has been that raped by poor farming practices I believe there's little chance of cod ever being viable.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: mackdonalds on September 03, 2014, 01:31:12 PM
That is very upsetting, I would have bet my boat that the MR Cod was protected up in the Stanley. That is prim Cod country, I think the line should be at the bridge, very obvious land mark. What a shame...... :'(
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: rayke1938 on September 03, 2014, 07:59:32 PM
The minister is also partly to blame for overruling opinions of fisheries and stating that it is permissible to take a photo of an accidentally caught regulated species before releasing. previously it was determined that taking a photo was not releasing promptly. As an aside I believe that there is a strong case of closing down the entire Mary River system during breeding season. If they can do it in other states why not Qld? Was listening to Stephan Sawnok at PRFMA meeting last night and one disturbing thing that he stated was the lack of juvenile MRC in survey reports which seems to indicate absence of any natural recruitment. Maybe Elops can comment on this. Cheers Ray
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: 2Dogs on September 03, 2014, 10:43:13 PM
he stated was the lack of juvenile MRC in survey reports which seems to indicate absence of any natural recruitment.
That one sentence has highlighted a MAJOR part of the problem. Shamateur dipsh!ts armed with tagging guns going out & think its ok to target & catch protected fish because they're "doing a survey". What does stabbing a fish with a tag (and then add an extra few minutes for the fish to be out of the water to tag, measure & stroke their small manhood etc) mean that it will happily swim back to it's nest, just because it's been tagged? Seriously WTF?? Then to make it worse, DAFF are actually contemplating ligitimising this practice. WTF yet again?? :Hunting)
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: aussiebasser on September 04, 2014, 06:39:50 AM
It seems there are a lot of stocked fish in the Mary system, and the local kids are having a ball catching them, saying there are plenty of them, without waiting for the official word. Until there is a totally self sustaining population of Mary River Cod in the Mary River System the fish is in real strife. The fact that Somerset Wivenhoe Fish Stocking Association had to donate $10,000 to the Gerry Cook Hatchery in an attempt to stop it folding shows how much the Government really cares about this endangered specie. Since the new dam was stopped nobody seems to give a flying continental about them.
Title: Re: Mary River Cod
Post by: Hambone on September 15, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
NSW has a total closure to protect Eastern Cod and a closed season to protect Murray Cod in spawning season. But meanwhile in QLD.................we have an ever increasing amount of fishing effort in MRC habitat which with the change in the Bass regs has increased considerably this season and no closed season at all for Murray Cod with the exception of the border Rivers.
There have been some recent changes to the regulations regarding both MRC and Murray Cod. Murray Cod are now protected during the spawning closure throughout all waters of the Murray darling Drainage Division in Queensland, not just the border rivers as they were previously. MRC are a no take species except in some stocked impoundments and there is a closed season that applies to all waters aligned with the Murray Cod closed season. The issue with "targeting" these fish is almost impossible to prevent as there are other species in the same waters that are able to be taken. You can check them out here -: www.daf.qld.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/rules-regulations (http://www.daf.qld.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/rules-regulations)