Wyaralong Mothballed

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I reckon i know who your talking about Steven.

Went for a last minute paddle over there this arvo its a pretty dam with an average depth of roughly 30 to 40ft in some places 70ft.  Photos to come.

Steve

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Here are some pics sorry for the bad quality they where off my phone.

The facilities there are pretty flash, the boat ramp is awefull long with a very small turning point halfway on the 70 or so yard ramp, there is a bit of parking at the top of the ramp and around the top side of the park wich is a one way road.

There is pretty limited launching options for kayakers unless you havea C-Tug trolley or catch the ram at a quiet time and drive down the ramp to launch.

Steve

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Hmmmmm
 Anyone heard any other news?

http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/the-sip-funding

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As far as I know, they are not currently part of the SIP scheme.  If reasonable public access is given, and fishing promoted as an activity on the dam, I don't see why they shouldn't be permitted to take part though.

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Dale are you reffering to the stocking group or the dam ? I sense something will be said soon.

Steve

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Normally, a Stocking Group would apply for the dam to become part of the SIP Scheme.  I'm not sure what the criteria is for being admitted to the scheme but I'm guessing that's the intention with this group.  They've put some details on their web site.  Are they the group responsible for stocking the Dam, or are they intending to apply for the role?

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Just wait and see Dale,   

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Based upon time I spent on the FMAC and the intent of the SIP when it was setup, Wyralong Dam won't be permitted to join the SIP until the dam/lake is an established stocked fishery.

The SIP is more a maintenance scheme as opposed to a way to create a fishery from scratch. ie take a fish out & your fees replace the fish you took. Considering the time it takes to get a legal sized fish, with an alternative user pays system, you would need to pay your SIP licence for a year or two before being allowed to actually go fishing for the fish you payed for to be legal size.....

SIP Selection Criteria
There is yet ot be any set selection criteria for what impoundments should or should not be permitted to join the scheme. I wrote a guideline as a discussion starting point for the FMAC & the SIP Subcomittee some time back, but nothing firm was ever put in place. It annoys me that the selection criteria is more about the personal oppinion of who ever happens to be in the meeting on the day its decided....Now its just fisheries dept call & for the life of me who in DEEDI that is I've not been told.... poor transparency & not remotely consistent IMHO. I'm happy to be corrected on the above if someone can prove otherwise. 


Attachments
1- Original draft selection criteria attached FYI
2- (from the time of writting) Shows where individual impoundments would be on that system

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You do make a valid point and i always thought the main reason for the sip permit was to replace fish stocks taken out of the selected impoundments.
By god all this politicle side is a cofuffle.

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Fitzy.
 Thanks for informative post.
 Cheers
Ray

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Early days yet but but I hope the functioning fishway, ie the carp lift which is proving as effective as predicted wont be an issue.
My understanding of the criteria for inclusion in SIPS is an impoundment with a functioning fishway is not eligible.

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WOW thanks guys, I didn't know any of that, it makes perfect sense, thank you.

A local group that used to be Carpbusters stated on their old site that they had applied to stock the dam, though I don't know the circumstances, their new site is at ---

http://sites.google.com/site/loganalbertfishmanagementass/home

they are having an AGM on Sep 7, advertised in the local paper, there is a mention of Wyaralong in the classified add, hopefully something positive, or at least progress might be announced.

I heard a good rumour months ago that a few guys were trying to form a seperate stocking group soley for Wyaralong, but I havent heard anymore.

Fingers crossed, something will eventually happen with enough support.

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Just to clarify.....

The SIP selection criteria I attached in previous post was what "I" wrote & submitted to the SIP Committee & Fisheries Dept as a suggested starting point. This has NOT been adopted, not is it a reflection of official policy. Simply my attempt to get those in decision making postions to come up with an official selection criteria......which they have yet to accomplish I'm sorry to say. 

fitz..

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Had me worried Fitz 

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SIP Selection Criteria
There is yet ot be any set selection criteria for what impoundments should or should not be permitted to join the scheme. I wrote a guideline as a discussion starting point for the FMAC & the SIP Subcomittee some time back, but nothing firm was ever put in place

I thought that made it quite clear, I don't know where or how any confusion could have come about.....


Anyhow, like I said, there is still no clear selection criteria for joining the SIP scheme. I'd like to read the response should someone apply > be rejected > ask why? I recon a system based on person preference or gut feeling is beyond laughable, rather is embarrasing.