Sweetwater Fishing Forums
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: takrat on August 07, 2013, 08:29:19 PM
-
As part of my preparations leading up the opening of Bass 2013 I just received my little order from Tackle Wharehouse in the US. I got myself a line cutter called the Snip made by the Boomerang tool company of all things. Plus 4 extras for some mates, price was US about $12. Also some new Rapala lures and 300yards of Suffix 832 10lb. That last item was only $36. The lures were about $8 each. Of course the current Au dollar will mess with that a bit and cartage was $37 fully insured. Why are things so much more expensive here??
JD
-
Did the same for years and often pondered that question myself.
By the time import taxes are added and a profit margin is included I suppose that brings the price up.
I still use the imported ones occasionally but I have replaced most of my lures with locally made lures (heaps of good makers out there)
I don't have a motza to spend on lures and I can get more from overseas for my money; it was doing my head in by sending my business outside of Australia and not spending it locally (my opinion only).
-
You're right Jason. It hasn't actually done my head in but I have plenty of locally made lures so a few from OS won't kill any one. The fact is that that Boomerang line cutter is not available in Australia as far as I could see. It looked great so I bought one then a few mates wanted one too so I ended up importing 5. The lures are also not available here as far as I can tell, however Last time I was in the US I saw Jitterbugs for $7, they normally sell here for anything up to $20, surely there's not that much import duty.
I like to support my local tackle store and have put a LOT of dollars over the counter there. I won't buy rods on line because I like to handle them before I shell out.
John
-
Same boat as Jason, used to buy allot online from OS but now I realised we all have to support the locals even if its just a little.
If you look hard enough some of the lures Aussies make can be quite remarkable
-
Add to the import duties etc, there's also 10% GST, which helps pay Aussie bills, build roads, employ people etc. overseas retailers don't have to charge or pay Aussie GST so they don't help Aussie economy, jobs, infrastructure, schools, hospitals etc...
Cheers
-
The problem appears to be that either the importers or retailers are making excessive mark ups on their products.
Another problem is that you are unable to purchase a lot of items here in Au .
Could someone please explain how I can purchase at retail prices in USA a 24 volt 70lb thrust transom mount minnkota traxis with maximiser for $560 landed in Australia.
You do have to shop around for freight prices with some retailers charging up to $1000 but I went through Pitney Bowles and the freight was only $69au and the motor arrived within a fortnight.
There is no duty on leccys and even if I had to pay GST that would only add $56 to the price.
Ok it is going to cost me $140 to send it back for a warranty repair if it packs it in within 2 years but even then I will be way in front and the delay will be probably around the same time as getting it repaired in au with there being around a month turnaround for repairs here.
Cheers
Ray
Cheers
Ray
-
I have a friend in the US who is selling his holiday house at the moment. Three bedroom, 2 acres, 1 mile from a ramp at the Lake Of The Ozarks. $74,000. His annual income is high, around $50k. People who work in shops are on minimum wage which is around $7 per hour. Local tackle stores here are paying around $1000 a week rent and 10% Gst and huge electricity costs and high tax rates and high wages and high local freight costs and higher interests rates. I suppose we should expect them to operate at a loss so we can have cheaper tackle.
-
Support your local businesses, cause if you don't , when you do need them they'll be gone.
Not just tackle shops either. Fruit n veg, meat , news agents...etc....
-
The problem appears to be that either the importers or retailers are making excessive mark ups on their products.
Another problem is that you are unable to purchase a lot of items here in Au .
Could someone please explain how I can purchase at retail prices in USA a 24 volt 70lb thrust transom mount minnkota traxis with maximiser for $560 landed in Australia.
You do have to shop around for freight prices with some retailers charging up to $1000 but I went through Pitney Bowles and the freight was only $69au and the motor arrived within a fortnight.
There is no duty on leccys and even if I had to pay GST that would only add $56 to the price.
Ok it is going to cost me $140 to send it back for a warranty repair if it packs it in within 2 years but even then I will be way in front and the delay will be probably around the same time as getting it repaired in au with there being around a month turnaround for repairs here.
Cheers
Ray
Cheers
Ray
Would you complain about reduced pension & increased costs of living if everyone else did their shopping overseas & we ended up with thousands less folks working to pay taxes for it & those unemployed sucking up dole money .... If you're content with that then all is well.
I forgot to mention that Australian businesses have to also pay carbon tax, C Tick approval for all electronic/electrical equipment which the seppos don't. Free trade is not free trade....
-
I wish the taxes I payed were like the SIP where I could tick where the money go....
-
I wish the taxes I payed were like the SIP where I could tick where the money go....
We have no idea where the money goes; a black hole is the best we can hope for.
-
Support your local businesses, cause if you don't , when you do need them they'll be gone.
Not just tackle shops either. Fruit n veg, meat , news agents...etc....
I actually do get fruit n veg, meat, news locally. The freight costs from the US were killing me and the vege's were all buggered.
-
How many local lures are stocked in your local tackle shop .? F all . If they stopped importing and stocked only locall products they would go broke . It's simple business
-
I have a friend in the US who is selling his holiday house at the moment. Three bedroom, 2 acres, 1 mile from a ramp at the Lake Of The Ozarks. $74,000. His annual income is high, around $50k. People who work in shops are on minimum wage which is around $7 per hour. Local tackle stores here are paying around $1000 a week rent and 10% Gst and huge electricity costs and high tax rates and high wages and high local freight costs and higher interests rates. I suppose we should expect them to operate at a loss so we can have cheaper tackle.
Hmm OK 50K is not high for the US, cops in NYC are getting close to that. Minimum wage is around $7 true sometimes less, which why you have to tip everyone. Real estate in the US is currently at an all time low level. I saw some great homes on acreage that could be bought very cheaply by our standards last time I was there. Rent for local tackle stores vary depending on where they are, the 10% gst is claimed back if it's a business expenditure, wages are often casual in that industry, freight costs also vary and are often covered by the supplier. Interest rates? Well we just saw that drop substantially, and any business that has trouble servicing its loan either has to make cuts or find a better loan provider. No one is really suggesting that Australian Tackle shops should go broke so we can get cheaper tackle... that's absurd. So when a lure costs $7 in the US and up to $20 here, who is making all the money?
-
I don't know, but I do know if you guys keep buying all you gear overseas we won't have Tackleshops here and then we'll all be able to bitch about the cause of that.
-
If you think the supplier covers the freight, I can pretty much guarantee you've never worked in the Aussie tackle industry.
-
Dale, you're not paying attention mate, in a previous post I made the point that I have spent thousands of dollars locally! I love being able to go into my local tackle shop and buy stuff. The amount I buy from overseas is minimal compared to what I buy locally. I would be the last one to advocate dumping the locals. But if I can't get it here, I will get it, one way or another. And that's human nature. I also cut out one tackle store because I didn't like his attitude, that's called free enterprise and it works both ways.
Cheers,
John
-
Freight from overseas is well and truly more than the GST pittance. Mark ups are usually around the 100% mark.
But these days I find myself buying high end gear mail order from many Oz Suppliers down south, still lots cheaper than local tackle outfits.
As for supporting local business, I'll give them just as much support as they give Australian lure makers.......
Wish I had heard about your motor deal earlier. My Kotta has been in with BLA for 5 weeks. Supposedly getting fixed. Took nearly 3 weeks just to get the quote. Authorised the work 2 weeks ago, got a call yesterday, bloke wants to know why my motor is in there, the other bloke has apparently gone on holidays or something, leaving my motor sitting on the bench half done and no info on what is happening.
Wont bother getting one fixed again.
-
A lot of our local retailers are only just waking up to the fact that service is of vital importance given that they have trouble competing on price. Too often you hear the same story; a customer will very often buy locally even if they have to pay more, provided they know that they'll get service backup and the sales people actually take an interest. Binders situation is a case in point. As to freight, most sharp business people will order in bulk whenever possible to minimise freight costs. If the customer wants it out side that time he has to pay extra. As long as it's explained properly most people will be OK with it. As to stocking locally made lures, a lot of that has to come from the lure makers themselves. Perhaps they could organise themselves into an association and market their product as Garra Lures do on a site like this. There are a lot of options.
JD