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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bushwacker on April 15, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
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Went for a walk today down below the wall at the entrance to the trailheads following up a convo had by a worker fixing the bridge.
In short allot of big spangled perch but to my suprise not just a few tilapia... not just hundreds.... but thousands of the critters in the breeding sesspool below the wall.
Reported catches above in the top of the dam also....
Not good me thinks
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That fishway could be bringing up stacks of them to keep the dam restocked..... :-X
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The fishway ? ? ?
I doubt its doing much of anything, Last i heard it had a dirty big log jammed up its coit.
Even still say it was working they proclaim they can take out non native species and only introduce natives.... I would like to see the practice behiend the theory with my own eyes.
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The European Carp invasion hit the Murray River in the 1970's and they're still trying to get rid of them. How long do you think it'll take Queensland to try to do something about invasive species?
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To be honest I wouldn't be to worried.
I am starting to quite respect the old Tillie as a sports fish, they go very hard, they also dont need live shrimp to tempt them for bait fisho's.
Also I suspect one day Qld Fisheries will see the light and similar to NSW, allow the taking of dead pest species for the table, if (when) that eventuates they would save you having to stock anything for those who like to fish for the table. After all, they do for redclaw in Sth Qld.
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...and everyone chasing pest fish still needs a SIP at participating lakes, thus generating more money for restocking, which helps control tilapia and carp.
Going forward I foresee a statewide sweetwater fishing license which will include those chasing crayfish as well (which are just as bad as tilapia or carp in SEQ, or worse yet, the Murray Darling catchment.
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The European Carp invasion hit the Murray River in the 1970's and they're still trying to get rid of them. How long do you think it'll take Queensland to try to do something about invasive species?
It never will happen.
QLD is that far behiend the rest of aus it isnt funny. The systems i have seen used on the murry for removing carp i suppose are the same principles for wyaralongs fish.
I disagree Binder i do not think anyone should be adopting a pest fish as a take or sport species if that happend all over the board our what chance do our aussie natives have ?
They may be fun to catch but are just filth compared to aussie bass that should be in stronger populations but arent because of all the dam weirs and impassable crossings down the rivers.
The horse has bolted
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Going forward I foresee a statewide sweetwater fishing license which will include those chasing crayfish as well (which are just as bad as tilapia or carp in SEQ, or worse yet, the Murray Darling catchment.
I would support it without question. Last i heard 50 stocking groups had this question put forward only 6 answers returned 3 in favor 3 against...
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ah, yes but the kicker on that proposal was the snouts that wanted in on the resulting trough of money. which is why I didn't support it.
Worst case scenario, when you finally get some cod, they will eat tillies as easily as they will eat carp!
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I would support it without question. Last i heard 50 stocking groups had this question put forward only 6 answers returned 3 in favor 3 against...
Yep
obviously same meeting but I still cant believe that 6 of 50 replied.
What are the rest doing?
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At least 7 replied and 4 were against it. Wonder if FFSAQ will let the majority rule?
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I cant see it happening anyway really, I may have spoken prematurely.. i tend to do that but i just dont think change is that easy
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Seeming as this thread has progressed into a fresh water fishing licence discussion, these are my thoughts.
If a fresh water fishing licence is to be introduced to Queensland, it would be implemented WITH the removal of the SIP scheme.
On the plus side, stocking groups that stock rivers and streams would hopefully get a revenue stream to replace what has been taken from them with the decision to axe the RFEP grants.
The downside, can politicians be trusted to deliver the same if not more revenue to the former SIP participants?
I'm not willing to roll the dice on that change . Too many politicians have let us down before.
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Seeming as this thread has progressed into a fresh water fishing licence discussion
How come that always happens :OffTopic)
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At least 7 replied and 4 were against it. Wonder if FFSAQ will let the majority rule?
It's not FFSAQ's decision..........
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True, but FFSAQ should represent the majority, that's why we pay to be members. Now, reading the letter I got yesterday I'll bet FFSAQ ignore the majority and stick with their agenda.
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I disagree Binder i do not think anyone should be adopting a pest fish as a take or sport species if that happend all over the board our what chance do our aussie natives have ?
They may be fun to catch but are just filth compared to aussie bass that should be in stronger populations but arent because of all the dam weirs and impassable crossings down the rivers.
The horse has bolted
So the alternative is to continue the way it is, with bass, cod and yellas being targetted to take home for a feed and tilapia being ignored as families out for a feed cannot take them?
If tilapia are targetted as a sport and or take species, how does that harm natives sorry?
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There are thousands of people targeting Tilapia for the table, and none have ever been charged with taking a dead fish home to eat. A certain group of people cannot accept that that is the case and continue to be concerned about the law, which is actually unenforceable. If you catch a Tilapia kill it, ice it and take it home to eat. If you get caught with it, and let's face it, with the number of enforcement officers out there you won't, let them take you to court and state your case. There is not a Magistrate in this state who will find you guilty of a crime, and frankly, the case would be dropped long before you get to court. If you are doing the wrong thing and transporting live Tilapia, then yes, you should be and you would be charged, but again, what are the chances of getting caught?
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They do taste good and there are a lot in NPD and it seems a waste to have to put them in the bin when a volunteer has to empty the bin..
Not saying what I do with them but it is kind to cut their throats and keep them on ice.
Cheers
Ray
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Well at least you are in accordance with the ANZCCART guidelines for euthanasia of fish Ray :walkplank
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Gotta be careful with that" Euthenising them in ice", doesn't always work. A Couple of years ago I threw a carp in an esky full of ice and left it there for 4 hours. (Daughter was proud as punch of her catch and wanted to show mum) When I opened it up to show mum - enough ice had melted to float the fish, and there the mongrel was staring back at me breathing ice water, healthy as if it had come out of the water a minute ago! Also copped an earful from the missus about being cruel to the mongrel fish, for keeping it alive in the esky full of ice!
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Tend to stop breathing when you cut their throats though.
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in accordance with the ANZCCART guidelines for euthanasia of fish
I doubt anyone is surprised by that. ::)