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General Category => Polls => Topic started by: Sweetwater on July 31, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
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I'm curious as to what anglers would prefer to see stocked into Lake Somerset?
You may vote for your 3 "most" prefered species, leaving out those you would "least" prefered stocked.
* Results are shown after you vote*
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MANGROVE JACK
Not likely to happen but would be interesting.
Perhaps they could be trained to take jetskiers off the surface?
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Good poll Fitzy, a bit surprised at the results so far. :thumbsup
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I'd love to see Barra as well, but I don't think our climate is right unfortunately :( Toga would be great tho, more things to chuck fluff at :)
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I'd love to see Barra as well, but I don't think our climate is right unfortunately :( Toga would be great tho, more things to chuck fluff at :)
G'day Muzfox,
There has been alot of Saratoga stocked into the top of Lake Somerset. Have you gone up chasing them there yet?
Cheers
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MANGROVE JACK
Not likely to happen but would be interesting.
Perhaps they could be trained to take jetskiers off the surface?
G'day Chep
Unfortunately there's two things stopping Mangrove Jack being stocked into Somerset:
1- supply of fingerlings
2- were not permitted to stock mangrove jack into Somerset.
Maybe a future option.....
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If we're to swap Golden Perch and Silver Perch for Mary River Cod and Saratoga, maybe we should look at raising the bag limits on the new species so SIP holders can still take home a decent feed of fish.
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G'day Muzfox,
There has been alot of Saratoga stocked into the top of Lake Somerset. Have you gone up chasing them there yet?
Cheers
Now I did not know that. Fished Somerset for 10 years when I had the stinker. Definitely going to have to think about a trip up there now. Guessing launching near Kilcoy is the best option? New flies to tie :thanks
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I feel so ordinary, voting with the majority. Having said that, I think the smaller dams like hinz, kurwongbah and MacDonald are more enjoyable fish for toga etc
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A decent feed of Toga Dale ? got any recipes only person I know that ate one was very disappointed.
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Not for me Steve, but there are a hell of a lot of people who tick the SIP boxes that expect to get a feed of fish for their money. That was the idea of the scheme, put and take. If you cut it down to two Bass per trip, and a lifetime of floggings if you kill a Cod or Toga, many of them won't be ticking the boxes or visiting Somerset. Any replacements for the two Murray Darling species need to be reasonable table fish, which Cod are, and have a decent bag limit, which Cod currently don't. Having the bag limit lifted on a specie that is described as "endangered" elsewhere could be a little tricky. For the SIP Scheme to remain viable Yellas have to remain or the limit for Bass has to be lifted to 10 in SIP funded lakes.
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I agree Dale the members who did the poll on this forum would be more inclined to give the result thusfar. Do the same poll amongst the average fisher who pays for a SIPS permit and you would get a different result. The Bass possession limit should be raised for impoundments certainly no shortage of them and may alleviate the massive overpopulation in some streams post flood events but then there is also a substantial number of Golden Perch in streams downstream so how many are actualy taken ?
Would be something to see if there were enough stocked Mary's in impoundments to support a greater take though given the number caught currently and taken from stocked impoundments raising it is highly unlikely to have any real effect.
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I can't see anything wrong with increasing bag limits and stocking endangered species in a fishery that has been established purely for people take a feed home. If anything you would think it would help in the recovery of the species, not that I think huge numbers go targeting them anyway.
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What would be interesting to see is a poll of who has caught / numbers of Marys caught in stocked impoundments over the last x amount of years.
I know its impossible but are they really worth stocking in impoundment for any other reason to maintain a population of them ?
I think Marys would be better off not stocked in impoundments unless the water upsream is substantial enough and suitable for possible breeding. I would be more inclined to encourage them stocked in waterways not obstructed by a dam, Have any observations been made with how Mary river cod look / recover after going over a wall if they ever do ?
Or am i completely off on another tangent.... :-X
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SIP funds are given by anglers to maintain a put and take fishery in some impoundments. Using those funds to reestablish a population of Marys in areas where it is illegal to target them would lack a moral reasoning. As did using RFEP funding for the same purpose, which is why SWFSA did not use these funds to put them in the Lockyer.
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The problem with having Mary River Cod as a targetable specie in Somerset is the fact that unscrupulous anglers could target them where they are easier to catch and say they caught them in the dam. Not all fishermen have the same love of the specie as many in here which can easily be seen by them being on the endangered list. They didn't try to kill themselves off!
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The problem with having Mary River Cod as a targetable specie in Somerset is the fact that unscrupulous anglers could target them where they are easier to catch and say they caught them in the dam.
Not all fishermen have the same love of the specie as many in here which can easily be seen by them being on the endangered list. They didn't try to kill themselves off!
Never going to stop that Dale
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What would be interesting to see is a poll of who has caught / numbers of Marys caught in stocked impoundments over the last x amount of years.
I know its impossible but are they really worth stocking in impoundment for any other reason to maintain a population of them ?
I think Marys would be better off not stocked in impoundments unless the water upsream is substantial enough and suitable for possible breeding. I would be more inclined to encourage them stocked in waterways not obstructed by a dam, Have any observations been made with how Mary river cod look / recover after going over a wall if they ever do ?
Or am i completely off on another tangent.... :-X
Caught more Mary's than Silver Perch in NPD, Macdonald, Baroon and Hinze if you count the Stanley Somerset as well :popcorn)
All bar one that I have seen that have gone over the wall were fat and healthy.
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Another case for rec fishing licenses, where the money is quarantined for the benefit of the fisheries.
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Papuan Black bass and Spot-tails.......
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Papuan Black bass and Spot-tails.......
Now wouldn't that be interesting....!!!!!
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There'd be some upgrading of gear going on that's for sure.
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I would still take the 4lb.... For the laughs. .
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Papuan Black bass and Spot-tails.......
..... and Nile Perch and Arapaima and Peacock Bass and Dorado....
...all on 4lb ;D
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Will any there be any stocking of Mary's and Toga 2nd and 3rd preferred species ?
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That would require a motion to be passed at a SWFSA meeting to overturn the current motion of not spending SIP funds on Mary River Cod. Personally (and this is my personal opinion which may won't agree with) I would see it as misuse of SIP funds. I doubt that we'd be able to buy Mary River Cod and Saratoga fingerlings at about 25 cents each. Bass and Golden Perch give the Stocking group more bang for the buck and they give anglers more fish on the table from what is supposed to be a put and take fishery. Get Mary River Cod off the Endangered/Threatened list, raise the bag limit to 5, drop the fingerling price to 25 cents and then I'd be all for them being dropped into the SIP lakes.
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Sounds like this survey needs to be redone on a representative sample of SIP licence purchasers then (job for SWFSA) - to see if we (SIP licence purchasers) actually do think cod and toga are a 'waste' of SIP funds.. considering how many SIP licence purchasers fish for sport instead of meat - and that the 'meat' options will still be there (bass, goldens - even the current bag on cod/togas) - it could be an interesting result.... :popcorn)
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MORE FORKIES!!!!!
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Sounds like this survey needs to be redone on a representative sample of SIP licence purchasers then (job for SWFSA) - to see if we (SIP licence purchasers) actually do think cod and toga are a 'waste' of SIP funds.. considering how many SIP licence purchasers fish for sport instead of meat - and that the 'meat' options will still be there (bass, goldens - even the current bag on cod/togas) - it could be an interesting result.... :popcorn)
When you have a volunteer group of about 12 people who provide a fishery for thousands and that group continually begs for more representation from anglers, and they receive none, I think the anglers should get what the committee votes for, and currently the fish for a feed guys pretty much outnumber the catch and release guys on the committee. If people want change, perhaps they could stick their hand up and volunteer to get involved and help a little instead of sitting back and bitching about what is and isn't available for them to catch. There are hundreds of guys trying to make themselves into legends by fishing ABT comps, wanna guess how many of them are involved in the Somerset and Wivenhoe Fish Stocking Association Committee?