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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sweetwater on September 18, 2010, 01:12:20 AM
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What's in a name?
A recent topic about location saw confusion about the same location with two names.
Occasionally you see a location get a name for the dam wall and then a name for the lake behind it.
Examples:
Lake Advancetown = Hinze Dam
Lake Samsonvale = North Pine Dam
Lake Monduran = Fred Haig Dam
Lake Mulwala = Yarrawonga Weir
Lake Barambah = Bjelke-Petersen Dam
Lake Morris = Copperlode Dam
Anyone want to add other examples?
Now I don't know about anyone else, but I don't go fishing in a dam. These are usually rock, earth & concrete affairs. I DO however do the odd spot of fishing in a lake.
So what do you think,,, should we use the dam name or the lake name?
Fitzy..
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Its weird with the dam/lake naming thing that seems to be going on. Around here we refer to them as the dam name
ie.
Toonumbar Dam
Clarrie Hall Dam
Glenbawn Dam
Copeton Dam
etc.
IMHO I think that they should referred to as dams, because there is a lot of confusion in the general public about whether it is such and such a dam or ..... lake.
Though in reality Lake Wivenhoe should be called Wivenhoe Sea, cause its so dam (pun intended) big!
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What about Lake St Clair James? That is Glennies Creek Dam isn't it?
fitz..
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I prefer to call the body of water by it's lake name if that particular body of water has two names Fitzy. I was a bit tired from engaging myself in some paperwork late that night and I missed the name of Fred Haig in that particular thread. I apologies if I confused anyone.
Lakes are usually but not always named after where they are situated.
Lake Monduran is situated at small township of Monduran just north of Gin Gin, just like Lake Samsonvale, a small township of the northern outskirts of Brisbane, just to name a couple of examples.
The dam name is usually named after an important body, entity or person of that region.
A perfect example of this is Lake Barambah or Bjelke-Petersen Dam which is situated near Kingaroy, a lake north- west of Brisbane in South East Queensland. For the younger members of Sweetwater, the dam was name after Sir Joe Bjelke-Petersen a Queensland Premier from 1968 to 1987 who resided at Kingaroy very close to the lake.
Dave
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personally i think they should be reffered to as dams i mean its not like everyone goes to "forest lake" or "springfeild lakes" or "varsety lakes" for their big bass outings or camping for the weekend . If you have a convo with me ill allways reffer to them as dams because thats what i was taught as i grew up not saying im 100% right just my two cents interesting topic tho
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Never thought about it, know all the ones I fish well enough you can use either and I understand what your talking about.
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yeah Lake or Dam what ever, lakes are either natrally formed or man made, back in Tas a lot of lakes are dammed then called lagoons, lakes, weirs main thing is there's fish in the buggers so hey.
If ya want to refer to what goes well the man made stucture that is in place to hold the water is called a dam.. the body of stored water is the lake, lagoon whatever...
etc: Lake pedder it has a few dams- Serpentine dam, Edgar dam Scotts Peak dam, and a out flow called the Mcpartlan Pass.
Cheers Nath
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I guess my take on the whole issue is that if there is a man made dam wall that holds back a river system then it becomes a dam and is known by the name given to it, even if there was a pre existing lake there before hand.
If there is a naturally occurring body of water that spreads on to a flood plain with its own natural barrier then it is a lake.
In the case of somewhere like Hinze Dam, the lake beforehand was Advancetown named after the township but as soon as it is "damed artificially " then a dam it should be.
Just my two cents worth.
Another issue is when two rivers or creeks have the same name and are fairly closely situated.
My examples here are the Severn River in NSW and the Severn River in Qld ,two entirely different systems.
There are also at least 2 Spring Creeks that I am aware of and are also near each other.
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Lake Proserpine Peter Faust Dam
I think you'll find that in Queensland the dam wall is normally named after a prominent citizen or politician (Not always the same thing!) Sir Joe had a penchant for naming them after his mates. In Vic, Lake Hume or the Hume weir is never called Hume Dam. It does seem more a Queensland thing during the Sir Joe era. It is only the concrete and rock structure that is named after the person, so we really should be fishing Advancetown Lake, not Hinze Dam and Lake Samsonvale, not North Pine Dam (hmm that one is named after the river, Sir Joe must have run out of mates. Don't know what happened with Somerset, Wivenhoe, Maroon and Moogerah though. Weird..
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Weird it certainly is ????????
Cheers ;) :)
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I wonder if it was caused by disagreement between local gov't and state gov't. Maybe they couldn't agree who had the right to name the impoundment
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Lake Proserpine Peter Faust Dam
I think you'll find that in Queensland the dam wall is normally named after a prominent citizen or politician (Not always the same thing!) Sir Joe had a penchant for naming them after his mates. In Vic, Lake Hume or the Hume weir is never called Hume Dam. It does seem more a Queensland thing during the Sir Joe era. It is only the concrete and rock structure that is named after the person, so we really should be fishing Advancetown Lake, not Hinze Dam and Lake Samsonvale, not North Pine Dam (hmm that one is named after the river, Sir Joe must have run out of mates. Don't know what happened with Somerset, Wivenhoe, Maroon and Moogerah though. Weird..
What about hinze? ive only ever herd that being called a dam does it have a "lake" name?
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The dam is the "wall" and the lake the water. Lake Samsonvale was named after the district it is in.
Bello
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Having the choice of calling the place you fish the name of some politician or giving it a local name??????
In a two horse race the latter would win by the length of the track by my reckoning. Awoonga is a good example of getting it right when you look at the meaning ;)
As for the dam, there is something ironic about naming a comparatively small but incredibilly dense object that wont budge an inch over its lifetime and has such a huge effect on everything around it after a politician. (need my ROTFL smilie)
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What about Lake St Clair James? That is Glennies Creek Dam isn't it?
I was referring to local spots
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What about Lake St Clair James? That is Glennies Creek Dam isn't it?
I was referring to local spots
Ok, I thought that St Clair was in the same general region.
Cheers,
fitz..
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What about hinze? ive only ever herd that being called a dam does it have a "lake" name?
Hinze Dam is Advancetown Lake. The wall after Russ, the water after the local town.
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Locals change names too. A friend and I fish a lake we personally call Lake Cynooia, why, because the text message mobile phone's brain alters the word Awoonga when you type it. The bloke I fish with is named Terrin- the mobile phone changes that text to 'Versio'
So 'Versio' and I fish 'Lake Cynooia'. Names can stick.
Who is Jim smith?,,,,oh yea, you mean, "Bluey"
Another long story is the name of 'Beak Creek', but we won't bore you with that particular historical event that occured in Gladstone about 11-12 years ago.
On the original topic. Lake Awoonga and Awoonga Dam are two different places - not one and the same.
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Pimpama Creek is forever known as Mahatma Creek to a couple of mates and I after an unfortunate incident with an errant back cast and a fishing partner's hat that was attached to a lure.
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Pimpama Creek is forever known as Mahatma Creek to a couple of mates and I after an unfortunate incident with an errant back cast and a fishing partner's hat that was attached to a lure.
I would be swimming after my hat thats for sure akubras arent cheep ! ;D
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Ok, so to expand on the topic.... if you're fishing a river somewhere & on water backed up by a weir or lock do you call it the Murray River or Lock 9 for example?
Does it depend where you access the water?
fitz..
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The Mexicans will refer there favorite fishing spot in a similar way to what we do. Savages, Twin Bridges, Beavers, Secret Creek etc. Around the Lock country they'll use the Lock number rather than just say The Murray. The Murray is a couple of thousand k's long, so just saying "I got him in the Murray" may be a bit vague. Saying "I got him up for Lock 9" gives a better idea, whilst your standard reply of "I got him in the mouth" gives nothing away. Local districts have pet names for locations that you'll never find on a map. Where I grew up, if you heard a fish was taken at Kenny Williams, you'd know it was at the top end of the Bundalong stretch and could have been Punt Creek. If it was up at Vincent's it was closer to Wang. If it was Targoora, it was the King just upstream from Wang. Gentle Annie (Sorry to hear about the new bridge washing away guys) would be the King just downstream from Whitfield. You need to spend a lot of time with you ears open in a new area to be onto the lingo.