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Lure Lunatics => Lure Making => Topic started by: Freshwater Newby77 on June 05, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
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Gidday all.I'm halfway thru making my first pair of minnows.
I have just glued in the hook hangars and tow points.
I got to the bibs and barely had enough left in the 3ml super glue to secure them
At about $5 a tube,there's got to be a more economical option out there.
Any info would be great guys.I know I can avoid most of it by a one wire thru the centre of the lure setup,but being my first attempt I thought I'd go with the basic option.
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Mate Super Strength Araldite will do the job OK, and just mix enough to do each batch of lures and let it cure overnight
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Mate Super Strength Araldite will do the job OK, and just mix enough to do each batch of lures and let it cure overnight
Yep agree, might seem dear in the first place, but mix the glue to match what you need carefully the amount you purchase will last for ever and this really is the best glue to use.
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Only use 24hr Araldite type glues for lures, the supa glues don't have enough viscosity to stay in bond with metals, they will wick away in the timber grain. Supaglue will also discolour the poly carbonate used in bib materials.
If you must persist with supaglue, get down to the $2 shops, most will have supaglue for $3 a card of 6.
Brad
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+1 for the 24hr araldite. I've been making lures for a few years now, including laminated bodies that have internal weights and rattles. Super Strength Araldite has never let me down. Takes overnight to cure, but the best stuff to use for any lure making process.
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Its unanimous! Super Strength 24 hr Araldite.I'll definitely be grabbing this stuff next time.
Many thanks to all of my more learned peers.
Much appreciated gents.
Marty.
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No no ... not set in stone with 24hr dite..
what allot of people fail to realize is araldite is an epoxy and epoxies by nature are a filler not an adhesive...
Think about it.....
Your not totally off the mark with super glue for polycarb bibs.
Brad that all depends on how you go about it ::)
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So Bushwacker, what other 'adhesive' would you suggest? I'm always up for other options.
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Araldite is used to join together the two sections of carbon fiber which make up the monocoque of the Lamborghini Aventador.
Sydney Opera House, Araldite was used to bond the rib sections of the shells
Highmark Manufacturing uses Araldite in the manufacture of advanced ballistic protection body armour.
I think using it to glue a lure together is pretty uncomplicated when you look at it.
And Steve, by the true meaning of "epoxy" it is 2 resins combined to cure chemically. It is the additives that can make it an adhesive or a filler.
I have used for years some base epoxy resin for building boats, I use it to seal timber, mix in one powder additive, and it glues, mix another and it is a gap filling hard filler, add another and it is a soft fairing filler.
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Think Steve uses Loctite 416 or 435??
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435 would be the more suited to lure applications.
I have considered one of the gel format Loctites, simply for ease of use when assembling (no dribbles causing errors when handling the lure :-[).
There is one that won't bloom on clear polycarbonate which is the problem I have had previously using super glue to bond the bib in.
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Sorry Brad did i stand on precious toes did i ?
you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink
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Here's a hint
Keep it in the fridge
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Not stepping on toes Steve, epoxies are a pet subject due to years using and selling them.
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I am not saying that Araldite is the only thing to use for the job, but given its ease of use, easy clean up and availability, why not use it.
Brad
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Gidday brad.I think I've been speaking to you on lure lovers too.Same name that I am on here now.I was freshwater new by.
I may have asked before,but at what stage does one glue in bib and hook hangers? Last? Cheers.Marty.
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Marty, same bloke :youbeauty
Its depends on what bib material you are using and how much fiddling you want to do with clean up.
For alloy bibs I tend to glue them in after final sanding of the body. I'll lightly sand the alloy both sides with 120grit and wash off with thinner to remove any mill lube, then spray with etch primer. Once etch is dry continue with normal paint routine.
For Poly carb, I will dry fit the bibs to the body, use a scalpel to cut and remove any of the protective plastic covering that will be inside the timber. Leaving the plastic sheet on the exposed portion makes glue clean up a breeze and then peel off the plastic when all is dry.
Ohh and drill 2 x 3-4mm holes through the bib to allow glue to bond all the way through.
Brad
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Thanks heaps brad,I wouldn't have thought to drill holes in the bibs-.nice one.:-)
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G'day Marty just saw your post here re glue etc.
Get yourself some Z-Poxy 30 Minute from ebay. half the price of Araldite and just as good.
l use it for all prototypes and short run glue-ups , has a working life of about 15mins then starts to gel.
Comes in two plastic bottles with spouts , very easy to use.
Araldite has a 30 minute work life , but is expensive , even when bought in bulk.
Hope this helps,
Barney.
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Definitely support the use of Z-Poxy 30 mins over 24 hour Araldite - it's just as strong, dries crystal clear, is easier to clean up and is cheaper.
I was thankfully put onto it by Lofty from Esoteric lures and to date it's performance has been faultless !!
Cheers
Rob
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theres quite a few guys use the zpoxy ,I believe Wal from illusion lures uses it too and here is another guy who's been making lures a long time (just like Mr Barnard and Mr Dunn) must be something in it. :youbeauty