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Title: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Editor on March 06, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
The Hon Katrina Hodgkinson MP
Minister for Primary Industries
MEDIA RELEASE
Thursday 5 March 2015

MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
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Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: rayke1938 on March 07, 2015, 04:44:38 AM
Has not Kurt at GAWB been stocking Awoonga with jacks for quite a while?
Cheers
Ray
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 07, 2015, 06:52:29 AM
Kurt hasn't been at GAWB Hatchery for quite some time, but they did breed and. Stock Jacks.


NSW, proudly going where Queensland has already been!
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: elops on March 07, 2015, 09:48:58 AM
These are the ones going into Clarrie Hall............... Ken also used to work at GAWB.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussbasstony on March 07, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
These are the ones going into Clarrie Hall............... Ken also used to work at GAWB.

Do you know this for sure ?
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 07, 2015, 07:38:38 PM
Can you confirm Tony?
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: rayke1938 on March 07, 2015, 07:52:51 PM
Been quite a bit on the subject for a few years.
Little about it on grants for NSWfishing trusts.
 http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/471945/RFFTEC-42.pdf (http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/471945/RFFTEC-42.pdf)
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Cheers
Ray
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Sweetwater on March 07, 2015, 11:04:32 PM
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Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 08, 2015, 08:08:10 AM
ABA don't look like they'll be stocking them, and no word from Tweed Council yet on whether they will.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussbasstony on March 08, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
No Dale, we have enough trouble keeping up with Bass stocking to worry about other things  :)
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: elops on March 09, 2015, 10:05:59 AM
There is a facebook page. The NSW mangrove jack breeding and stocking project.
How often does Clarrie Hall overflow Tony ?
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussbasstony on March 09, 2015, 11:04:33 AM

How often does Clarrie Hall overflow Tony ?

I don't know exact figures mate but when ever there is flooding rain in the direct Catchment area as in most Dams I would say.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: elops on March 09, 2015, 11:41:07 AM
Every year it seems, IMHO they will entrain at the first opportunity.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussbasstony on March 09, 2015, 11:48:44 AM
Every year it seems, IMHO they will entrain at the first opportunity.

then what is the point ?
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 09, 2015, 11:56:43 AM
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Developing Mangrove Jack as a new key species for freshwater recreational fishing in NSW – Phase 2: Breeding and subsequent stocking of fingerlings into Clarrie Hall Dam. Provide NSW anglers with an exciting new high quality recreational fishing opportunity – mangrove jack in Clarrie Hall Dam. SUPPORTED. Moved Ron Butler, Seconded Max Graham.
Southern Cross University
$40,600 FW $40,600 SW[/quote
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 09, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
Looks like they've approved the outlay of $81,200 to see if they can screw up a perfectly good fishery. 
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Jim_Tait on March 11, 2015, 09:15:57 AM
So when Jacks become more broadly available for stocking in Qld you wont want them going in any existing bass fisheries because they may screw up the fishery  ::)  - I doubt they would anyway....
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 11, 2015, 09:36:35 AM
I'm sure the fun police at SEQWater wouldn't allow them in their lakes because once they hit 20lb they'd be a danger to the swimmers.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Sweetwater on March 11, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
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Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 11, 2015, 11:04:16 AM
Wyaralong could be the perfect spot for them.  No swimming so they won't eat the kiddies.  No real established native angling species.  (Some Bass and Cod present.)  Ample population of feral forage species.  The Dept of Environment could fund it jointly with the Dept of Sport and Recreation as a Carp eradication/Recreational angling program.  Could be a Tourism drawcard for Beaudesert as well as a great experimental site without a drastic risk of ruining an established fishery.  Throw a few million in there and see what happens.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Novice on March 11, 2015, 12:17:09 PM
 Wyaralong has spilt nearly every year since it was built. As Elops says they bugger off over the spillway at the first opportunity that would make Wyaralong to be a poor choice.

As Awoonga has stocked them in the past, what are the catch results there given that Awoonga has spilt nearly every year since 2010?
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: rayke1938 on March 11, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
Wonder if they gobble up forkies? know quite a few dams that would benefit ;D
Cheers
Ray
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 11, 2015, 12:49:36 PM
Why get rid of Forkies, they're native and belong there more than Mary River Cod, Golden Perch and Silver Perch.

I think Clarrie Hall spills fairly regularly as well Dave, maybe it's a good time to develop a way of retaining fish in a dam that spills.  I remember some crackpot a few years ago wanted to put a net across the wall at Awoonga to retain all the Barra in the event of a spill.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Jim_Tait on March 11, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
Its not such a crack pot idea to have spillway exclusion nets for barra, they work fine on a number of nth Queensland impoundments, re: Mary Cod which is just one name used for a species complex that occurred in all basins from the Clarence north to the Mary incl. Richmond, Logan, Albert, Coomera, Brisbane and Mary - they have some historical tenure on the place - at least more than silvers and goldens and inland Jacks - predation (at least from natives) would not get 'rid' of forkies, but may moderate their abundance which is likely to be unnatural in the absence of the native predator suite (incl large cod) and in the presence of abundant artificial habitat in the form of impoundments
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Jim_Tait on March 11, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
Also maybe its not such a bad problem if Jack do spill into receiving river systems - especially if their stocking was paid from a general rec fishing licence (as it is in NSW cf. the SIP scheme) and spilled fish contributed to river and estuarine fisheries....
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: aussiebasser on March 12, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
I guess it's academic now,against the wishes of the dam's owners and stockers the first batch were released today.
Title: Re: MANGROVE JACK BREEDING BREAKTHROUGH
Post by: Brad H on March 12, 2015, 06:01:04 PM
But think on this...what if they could be conditioned to only take noisy surface lures...... :thumbsup


Would be good to see one boofing around lake lice hehehehehehehehheee