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Special Interest => Fish Restocking / Acclimatisation and Environment => Topic started by: Sweetwater on January 20, 2013, 11:26:54 PM

Title: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: Sweetwater on January 20, 2013, 11:26:54 PM
The Somerset & Wivenhoe Fish Stocking Assn recently kicked off restocking in the Lockyer Creek at O'Rielly's Weir.

Attached are pictures of some S&WFSA members/volunteers letting the first bass go in the waters mentioned above....

Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Binder on January 21, 2013, 05:25:19 AM
Good to see, how many went in?
I think we run a couple of thousand when we do the Woodford weir.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Sweetwater on January 21, 2013, 08:46:01 AM
Good to see, how many went in?
I think we run a couple of thousand when we do the Woodford weir.

In that lot 1500.

Did 12 000 more on the weekend but lost a few in transport unfortunately.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: magic_fishstix on September 20, 2013, 04:16:34 PM
Is that at lowood? is there google map?
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: aussiebasser on September 20, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Yes, near Lowood
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Sweetwater on October 19, 2013, 11:18:38 PM
Is that at lowood? is there google map?


Lowood area...

Map below shows the first several kms of Lockyer Creek upstream of O'Rielly's Weir. Where the fish go after release is up to them.


Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: wesfish on November 04, 2013, 06:38:44 AM
Good to see, what species?
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Doubletrouble on November 04, 2013, 09:48:36 AM
The Somerset & Wivenhoe Fish Stocking Assn recently kicked off restocking in the Lockyer Creek at O'Rielly's Weir.

Attached are pictures of some S&WFSA members/volunteers letting the first bass go....

Thanks heaps to all those involved, and thank for the post.
That is something I would love to get involved in, but have been working weekends for 22 years now.

If help can be given on a thur / fri , give me a hoy.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Sweetwater on November 04, 2013, 01:07:58 PM
Wes, Bass and Mary River Cod.

Paul. Sometimes fish are released mid week. Meetings are on the 3rd Wednesday of each month at the Fernvale Futures Complex. All are welcome to attend at any time.

Cheers,

Fitz..
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: wesfish on November 04, 2013, 05:54:15 PM
Wes, Bass and Mary River Cod.

Paul. Sometimes fish are released mid week. Meetings are on the 3rd Wednesday of each month at the Fernvale Futures Complex. All are welcome to attend at any time.

Cheers,

Fitz..
Cheers mate, awesome news the mrc :)
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: aussiebasser on November 04, 2013, 07:13:51 PM
Currently, MRC are totally protected there so it is illegal to target them.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Novice on November 04, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
Yes but, if swfsa doesn't stock it. Who will?
The qld government?

Something had to be done and its a good start with what swfsa having decided on doing.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: A Marshall on November 04, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
I understand where you are coming from Dale, but if we don't start somewhere nothing will ever change. I would love to see MRC become self sustaining in our local waterways & be allowed to target them. As Dave said if we don't get the ball rolling we could be waiting a long time.

Cheers Andrew
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: aussiebasser on November 04, 2013, 07:32:30 PM
Just informing people Dave, settle down.  No point people thinking SWFSA are stocking them so we can fish for them.  You guys can target them all you like, but it is illegal and will remain so until the laws change.  Hopefully those targeting them where they are protected will eventually get caught and people will learn.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: aussiebasser on November 04, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
I understand where you are coming from Dale, but if we don't start somewhere nothing will ever change. I would love to see MRC become self sustaining in our local waterways & be allowed to target them. As Dave said if we don't get the ball rolling we could be waiting a long time.

Cheers Andrew
Mary River Cod are not native to the system, so it's a second best scenario.  The reasons Mary River Cod are on the endangered list have not been addressed so again, Stocking is not the sole answer.
You both saw my hand go up at the vote last month to support the stocking so I'm not sure why you feel I need to be treated as if I'm opposed to it.  I will repeat, it is illegal to target them in Lockyer Creek and probably will be for the next 10 years.  People need to be aware of that.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: aussiebasser on November 04, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
Yes but, if swfsa doesn't stock it. Who will?
The qld government?

Something had to be done and its a good start with what swfsa having decided on doing.
In reality it should be the Commonwealth Government.  Same as Trout Cod.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: wesfish on November 04, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
I think a review of populations in the systems that the mrc recovery program stocked over 10 years ago I think. I believe their efforts payed off in just about all their locations.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Doubletrouble on November 04, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
Wes, Bass and Mary River Cod.

Meetings are on the 3rd Wednesday of each month at the Fernvale Futures Complex. 


Thanks Fitz. I work strange hours ( brisbane city council bus driver ) but if I can, I will be there.

Cheers
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: elops on November 05, 2013, 12:00:39 AM
Pretty sure everyones hand went up.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Novice on November 05, 2013, 08:25:23 AM
In reality it should be the Commonwealth Government.  Same as Trout Cod.

In respect to MRC, both State and Federal Governments have thrown their hands in the air and walked off the field (outside of the Mary river catchment). Unless stocking of MRC is done by someone , the status quo of protection legistlation and population size and distribution will never change any time soon.

At the end of the day, SIP funds are not being used anyway.

Long live the carp and cichlid eaters!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: aussiebasser on November 05, 2013, 09:04:10 AM
Weren't  Mary River Cod only endemic to the Mary River system?  Could we be just fooling ourselves with trying to translocate them all over the place?  I'm not smart enough to know if there is a reason that Mary River Cod were only present in the Mary River system for millions of years.  Anyway, this discussion isn't about that. 
Yes, Mary River Cod will be stocked into O'Rielly's Weir when fingerlings are available.  No, you cannot target them as they are totally protected.  Wait patiently until there is a self sustaining population and then lobby to have the protection lifted so people can go and catch them.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: mackdonalds on November 05, 2013, 09:29:58 AM
Yes but, if swfsa doesn't stock it. Who will?
The qld government?

Something had to be done and its a good start with what swfsa having decided on doing.

That's interesting...! The swfsa have attended the Lockyer Valley stocking group meetings and know where and what is stocked in the Lockyer Creek ??
Maybe if they had they would actually know what there talking about !
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Reillys Weir restocking
Post by: Sweetwater on November 05, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
That's interesting...! The swfsa have attended the Lockyer Valley stocking group meetings and know where and what is stocked in the Lockyer Creek ??
Maybe if they had they would actually know what there talking about !

I for one haven't. But in this context, I've been referring to waters impounded by O'Rielly's Weir upstream towards the junction, as noted in the first post of the topic. I'm not sure if you've possibly read more into it than what is intended. Are you saying that the lvsg have stocked Mary River Cod into waters impounded by O'Reilly's Weir?

Can you shed any light on what's been stocked on weirs further upstream on the Lockyer and / or Laidley Creek, tributaries etc? The more information shared about restocking activities the better.  :thumb
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: mackdonalds on November 05, 2013, 10:09:24 AM

Can you shed any light on what's been stocked on weirs further upstream on the Lockyer and / or Laidley Creek, tributaries etc? The more information shared about restocking activities the better.  :thumb

All stocking of the creek/s have been with private funding, there have been no grants or state or federal monies used, one of the conditions of the funding was that where and what is stocked is not to be made public. This is due to private properties having 99% access to the area's and that policing of the creek is almost if not totally impossible. That was at 2011/12.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: elops on November 05, 2013, 11:31:11 AM
Outside of the listed impoundments they have been stocked as founder populations as part of the recovery plan (MRCRRP) to replace the extinct/extirpated SEQ Cod. Could tell you pretty much everywhere they have been stocked(not where the Lockyer group stocked theirs but know how many) Could give a fairly accurate report on the results thus far in the SEQ Catchments and populations therein BUT will not on a public forum due to the unfortunate fact that there are people who will deliberately target them even in breeding season.
Rarely take pics, never post any, but here is one for aussiebasser. This one(a female) lives near several males close to where there has been a small fish that is definitely a recruitment fish not a stocked fish captured, so they do without doubt what Cod do when translocated into the other catchments.
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: Crackers on November 05, 2013, 12:36:15 PM
All stocking of the creek/s have been with private funding, there have been no grants or state or federal monies used, one of the conditions of the funding was that where and what is stocked is not to be made public. This is due to private properties having 99% access to the area's and that policing of the creek is almost if not totally impossible. That was at 2011/12.

The cats out of the bag now Mac.  Going by what you've stated about the group stocking further up the creek, you wouldn't be able to share any info with the group stocking above O'Rielly's weir anyway then?

Why say anything at all?



Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: bushwacker on November 05, 2013, 12:51:46 PM
The cats out of the bag now Mac.  Going by what you've stated about the group stocking further up the creek, you wouldn't be able to share any info with the group stocking above O'Rielly's weir anyway then?

Why say anything at all?

Why pry ....  :-X
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: Crackers on November 05, 2013, 12:56:25 PM
Why pry ....  :-X

Read further up.wasn't it Mac who made the first statement about the stocking up the creek and if any one could be bothered asking. That's why.  ;D
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: StevenM on November 05, 2013, 01:13:45 PM
I love seeing zapped fish Steve

She looks in good nic
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: rayke1938 on November 05, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
Wes, Bass and Mary River Cod.

Paul. Sometimes fish are released mid week. Meetings are on the 3rd Wednesday of each month at the Fernvale Futures Complex. All are welcome to attend at any time.

Cheers,

Fitz..
Where did you get the marys from? Thought Russel hasnt produced any for a couple of years. Cheers
Ray
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Novice on November 05, 2013, 04:18:22 PM
That's interesting...! The swfsa have attended the Lockyer Valley stocking group meetings and know where and what is stocked in the Lockyer Creek ??
Maybe if they had they would actually know what there talking about !

Good point. In a perfect world, management plans of whole catchments/systems would be the norm and all stocking groups/stakeholders would be making decisions from a whole of catchment perspective. Somerset Wivenhoe Fish Stocking Association applied for and have approval for stocking the Lockyer, Bremer and Warrill creeks with Bass and MRC. SWFSA hasn't been hiding away its activities, local landholders honey holes will benefit from this too. As more anglers use the Lockyer, this will be good for the environment as well, from there being more sets of eyes keeping watch on illegal dumping and illegal alterations to the banks of the creek.

Title: Re: Lockyer Creek restocking
Post by: Sweetwater on November 05, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Where did you get the marys from? Thought Russel hasnt produced any for a couple of years. Cheers
Ray

Sorry Ray. Those fish pictured being released were bass (that was in 2012 btw). When I said Bass & MRCs I meant that is what is intended to be stocked into that location. No MRCs have been purchased by swfsa and released at that site as yet.  ;D
Going forward, swfsa have committed funds (not govt grants) to restocking fish here.

Cheers,

fitz..
Title: Re: Lockyer Creek / O'Riellys Weir restocking
Post by: rayke1938 on November 05, 2013, 05:42:11 PM
Looks like both hatcheries have produced MRC fingerlings this year.
 Cheers
Ray