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Author Topic: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review  (Read 18533 times)

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2013, 06:39:48 AM »
Grubs.

Actually I just renewed my permit and actually read it. Then I went and read the old ones back to 2008 I still have, all are more or less the same.

All the arguments I've seen over the years on forums about whether or not you need an SIP for shrimp, for Redclaw etc etc.

Permit says its for taking fresh water fish using either a fishing line or set line. Looks like no one ever reads the actual permit!  ;)

Of course my problem now is that if they do add any extra's to the SIP I'll need a new permit, because it also says that permission to fish is for use in any water way as listed in the 1999 Fisheries management plan!

Are these the same "Grubs" you would want to include Kurwongbah on the SIP Scheme?

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2013, 07:04:32 AM »
Am I just paranoid or is this actually the forerunner of a rehash of the whole SIP scheme?
 It really puts the existing SIP participants in an awkward situation as they are going to lose a proportion of their funding or be seen to have a dog in the manger attitude.
Has anyone had the time to work out how much funding would go to all groups.
Personally I cannot foresee a large increase in the number of sip permits sold as most anglers already have a sip and the only major dams that may join would be Hinze and Awoonga.
Does the existing formula for funding distribution need to be changed ?
One thing is that the whole thing needs to be enshrined in the legislation to stop sticky fingered governments stealing our funding.
I am also a bit surprised that this has not been published more widely by the different stocking assns for member input.
Not being critical of FFSAQ or stocking assns but the letter from the Minister was sent out on 17th april and FFSAQ forwarded it to the stocking assns on 15th May with a deadline of 30th May when they are meeting the minister.
Very few stocking assns will not even be having a meeting in this window which is very unfortunate considering the importance of this issue.
My verbal diarrhea for the day.
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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2013, 07:47:38 AM »
Awoonga doesn't have a Community Stocking Association, so they would be ineligible.  From memory, Gladstone Area Water Board made a promise to the citizens of Gladstone that they would manage this when the dam was built.  I doubt the DAFF have included them.  I doubt that they'd be a member of FFSAQ so I also doubt that FFSAQ would support them.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2013, 07:49:06 AM »
As for your first question Ray, I have always suspected it.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2013, 03:40:07 PM »
As for your first question Ray, I have always suspected it.
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 When you have been around as long as I have and listened to half truths, broken proposals,I did not really mean that,etc,etc from all sides of the political fence you do tend to become very cynical and always look for the down side of anything proposed by politicians.
 Note I use the word proposal rather than promise.
There is only one politician that I have met who when he made a commitment it actually happened the way he promised and that was a hell of a long time ago.Probably in 1970/80s.
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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2013, 04:09:37 PM »
Tell me about it Ray.  I received two emails yesterday, one from Council saying it was a State Gvt problem, one from the State MP saying it was a Council problem!

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2013, 07:00:23 PM »
Are these the same "Grubs" you would want to include Kurwongbah on the SIP Scheme?

If you mean the Pollies, thats who I'm referring to,  >:(  I have no issue with the survivors in Fisheries.

I dont actually want Kurwongbah on the SIP   ;D  My opinion is if you cant bung your boat / kayak on it, it shouldn't be on the SIP.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2013, 07:02:34 PM »
If you mean the Pollies, thats who I'm referring to,  >:(  I have no issue with the survivors in Fisheries.

I dont actually want Kurwongbah on the SIP   ;D  My opinion is if you cant bung your boat / kayak on it, it shouldn't be on the SIP.

I'll second that

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2013, 07:50:10 AM »
The solution for both the existing SIP impoundments & to get the other dams & weirs on it without ripping out the money is easy.

Simply add crayfishing to the SIP & there's the increased income.

Thoughts??

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2013, 02:00:18 PM »
I dunno, does anyone actually put in redclaw pots without tossing a line in while they are at it?

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2013, 03:44:22 PM »
I dunno, does anyone actually put in redclaw pots without tossing a line in while they are at it?
At Somerset, there's ALOT. Then go take a look at cray pots Vs fishing rods at Lake Maraboon. Probably 100 : 1 or more. There's a couple for starters.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2013, 05:04:55 PM »
Wow. Bet its just because they are to tight to pay for the permit, No way would I go past a bit of water with a fish in it without tossing in a lure or a shrimp!

Dont get specific about the catch, just include use of traps as well (cover bait and redclaw).

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2013, 08:46:51 PM »
Here is the draft DAFF "Guidelines for the addition and removal of dams on the Stocked Impoundment Permit Scheme"

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2013, 08:54:39 PM »
That would almost preclude Kurwongbah.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2013, 09:06:35 PM »
Almost but not quite as it stands. established well utilized shore based fishery with access.
Pending the outcome of the SEQ Water recreational review of Kurwongbah ?
"weirs and rivers will not be granted approval for SIPS"  :popcorn)

 

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