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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2013, 06:32:12 PM »
Almost but not quite as it stands. established well utilized shore based fishery with access.
Pending the outcome of the SEQ Water recreational review of Kurwongbah ?
"weirs and rivers will not be granted approval for SIPS"  :popcorn)

"The location must be classified as a dam
(also know as an impoundment). Weirs
and rivers will not be granted approval for
SIPS. A dam is defined as a physical
barrier constructed across a river or
waterway to control the flow of or raise
the level of water. For the purpose of this
assessment a dam will also be defined
as having storage of water greater than
50 hectares in surface area at full supply
level (FSL)."

I read the above to mean a weir can be added.

As in the past, I would again challenge someone to adequately define an impoundment. More specifically the difference between a "dam" and a "weir".

Connelly Dam is only 50ha, but there are weirs that are many times larger in surface area. And then there's "off stream storages" eg Isis Balancing Storage & Lake Dyer.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2013, 08:40:21 PM »
Rules will knock poor old Caboolture out of a chance of seeing any money, the three weirs they stock are quite small, so  the prospect of more fish in the top of the Stanley above Woodford, Caboolture river or Waraba creek is pretty grim.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2013, 09:30:20 AM »
Rules will knock poor old Caboolture out of a chance of seeing any money, the three weirs they stock are quite small, so  the prospect of more fish in the top of the Stanley above Woodford, Caboolture river or Waraba creek is pretty grim.

Does the Caboolture group receive financial support from local council? If not, that is an option.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2013, 09:43:23 AM »
Stocked Impoundment Permit Scheme not the Stocked Dam Permit Scheme

Weirs and dams both "impound" water.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2013, 10:03:23 AM »
Stocked Impoundment Permit Scheme not the Stocked Dam Permit Scheme

Weirs and dams both "impound" water.

Hmmm

im•pound•ment (ɪmˈpaʊnd mənt) also im•pound′age,

n.
1. the act of impounding or the state of being impounded.
2. a confined body of water, as a reservoir.


But, when you look at their definition of the word "take" maybe they have their own dictionary.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2013, 12:39:42 PM »
And the minister can also redefine a word such as he has just done with " immediate" which now means " when you feel like it"
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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2013, 04:37:34 AM »
Does the Caboolture group receive financial support from local council? If not, that is an option.

They have in the past, last lot ran out last year (IE they still stocked in January). Not sure what the boys will do, they will probably apply around various places, stock if they get money, wont stock if they dont. Pretty laid back.
Just saying they are an example of a group who wouldn't benefit from an opening up of the scheme under those proposed guidelines..

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2013, 07:05:27 AM »
Wow, how's this for acknowledgement:
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Below is a list of the communication materials that must be edited to include the removal of a
dam:
• Fisheries Queensland website list of dams,
• SSQ online purchase list of dams,
• Permit books list of dams,
• SIPS database,
• SIPS posters and flyers (also destroy old material),
• Queensland Recreational Boating and Fishing Guide,
• Recreational Fishing Size and Bag Limits for Queensland,
• Advise FFSAQ and other interested SIPS stakeholders of the new dam (e.g. Sweetwater
fishing
etc.)

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2013, 07:40:51 PM »
Wow, how's this for acknowledgement:

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2013, 08:33:05 PM »
A reminder to everyone that the SIP scheme costs will increase on 1 July 2013.

The new fees will be:

Adult Weekly - $7.70
Adult Yearly - $38.60
Pensioner discount - $ 33.55

With the SIP scheme potentially being watered down with more waterways being added, one possibility to offset this is to remove the pension card discount. After all, those who are retired (not working) can go fishing all day every day; that's a lot of fish that can be caught & eaten.

As mentioned elsewhere, the other way to stop the SIP being diluted is to add cray fishing requires a SIP.

What do you think?

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2013, 09:52:54 PM »
Honestly I dont know. My gut feeling is they have significantly affected the fingerling industry with the 200 odd K cut in funding.

Judging by NPD's allocation from the SIP (considerably less than last years), I suspect the overall take from the SIP is down considerably this year as well, which will further affect the producers.

If they then have to deliver the fish over a much wider distribution, their costs will be much higher, funding is considerably less, I think we will be seeing 40c a fingering soon.

What I would like to see instead of people thinking we should be paying SEQ Water for access, that if SEQ Water start charging for entry or access universally, that a reasonable amount of that goes back to the people actually making it a desirable recreation spot, EG, The stocking groups putting in the fish people are coming to fish for.




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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2013, 04:01:06 AM »
Pensioner discount to remain. ( Self interest ;D We are already being kicked in the back pocket enough)
Redclaw yes
Everyone over the age of 5 requires a permit.( Maybe ages 5 to 17 at pensioner rates or introduce a family permit at a higher rate.) after all kids have to pay to use public transport or go to the pictures or sporting events.
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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2013, 12:34:09 PM »
$38.60  what can you buy for 38.60 nowadays ? pretty good deal for the fishery you get.

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2013, 03:57:12 PM »
SWFSA allocation this year was more than last year, you just need people to tick the box.  RFEP funding won't affect the hatcheries too much.  Affected groups need to stop bitching and start fund raising.  $38.60 is nothing, abolish discounts, all people over 16 need a SIP individually, no two for one for couples!

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Re: SIP Scheme - QLD Fisheries Review
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2013, 05:16:28 PM »
Affected groups need to stop bitching and start fund raising.

I'm pretty much giving most of my stocking group memberships  away, more in life than spending endless weekends selling sausages.

 

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