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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2014, 12:57:19 PM »
So WTF is with the amended regulations then, they state the complete opposite. I might print them out and laminate it and keep with me during closed season!

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2014, 01:03:33 PM »
Was he a QBFP officer?

Not sure he answered the line when I got through to fisheries.

My opinion is that the statement about tidal closures is correct and also about closures around barrages and dam walls etc. The statement about tidal closures is in the regulations and it is the over riding legislation. There are no new amendments to the legislation so that statement in the Regs stands.
What is in the latest edition of the fisheries Regulations:

42 Prohibited activities and regulated period
(1) A regulated person must notó
(a) take Australian bass in tidal waters during the regulated

period; or
(b) possess Australian bass
taken in contravention of
paragraph (a).
(2) For subsection (1)(a), the regulated period is from 1 June to 31 August

Division 1 Regulated persons
41 Regulated persons for pt 5
Any person is a regulated person

Now surely anything else stated on websites and by fisheries personnel is speculation or their own opinion based on lack of knowledge of the regulation.

My opinion anyhow.
Steve

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2014, 01:11:56 PM »
As I said earlier there are a few issues with upgrading the websites etc and this is where the service centre get the information they use in replies. I believe this is being addressed now.
Snodger which fisheries did you ring?

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2014, 01:13:31 PM »
Snodger thanks for quoting the regs

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2014, 01:29:42 PM »
I went through the DAFF info line. Sorry I am not being much help here.

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2014, 06:05:15 PM »
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re their reply below in this statement

I advise the Brisbane River: from 100 m upstream to 200 m downstream of Old Mt Crosby Weir; from 100 m upstream to 200 m downstream of Mt Crosby Weir; from 100 m upstream to 600 m downstream of the Wivenhoe Dam wall is closed to all forms of fishing.  I refer you to our  website  http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/rules-regulations/closed-waters-freshwater-areas

http://www.sweetwaterfishing.com.au/Forum/index.php?topic=6861.0


To me this means I can fish from 600 meters downstream of the Wivenhoe Dam Wall to 100 meters upstream of the Mt Crosby Weir.

Brooksy, as an officer, what is this "toil and trouble" mumbo jumbo anyway?

Can we fish upstream of the Crosby Weir?  Plain and Simple or what is your interpretation of the new rules.


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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2014, 06:45:52 PM »

Can we fish upstream of the Crosby Weir?  Plain and Simple or what is your interpretation of the new rules.

Yes,I reckon, start from Kholo as the river closed down there to all traffic...

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2014, 06:47:13 PM »
It seems this has been some really last minute, rushed regulation writing.  Giving Brooksy the third degree isn't going to solve it.  The Stocking Group have a meeting with DAFF officers soon, and I gather this was to be discussed there.  Snoggers posting of the regulations pretty much spells it out.  Before everybody opens up on Brooksy, we should realise that these changes were made above his pay grade so he is not responsible.  He's also on his own time at the moment.  I'm sure he's trying to arrange for a simple English press release to be made.  The amendment is only a couple of days old, and the Department is operating at greatly reduced staffing.

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2014, 09:01:10 PM »
Not putting any pressure on Brooksy by any means

Totally understand that he never made the rules or changes

But what have the field guys been told or what is the correct interpretation of the cr@p that has been posted in broken Engrish

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2014, 12:27:43 AM »
Just to clarify one thing... The exclusion zone above Mt Crosby weir up Kholo Bridge is not & has never been a fisheries reg. The only "fisheries" closure above Mt Crosby weir is 100m I think.

The rest of the water between Kholo Bridge & Mt Crosby weir was some Brisbane City Council mumbo jumbo exclusion zone, apparently for water quality, Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register.

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2014, 07:59:53 AM »
lts about time fisheries/other departments produced simple maps designating exclusion zones for whatever species and whatever time of year. Much more user friendly , stupidly easy to produce.

l think they have them in victoria?

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2014, 05:40:27 PM »
It appears the lawmakers are defining tidal waters as those unobstructed by any man made barriers, this is very confusing as you will find maps indicating the tidal limit , unless there is a weir or rockbar this is in the freshwater although there is still a rise and fall due to tidal influence. Massive confuse coming on I'd say.

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2014, 06:16:50 PM »
I am sure they will clarify it in the coming days hey

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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2014, 07:04:10 PM »
It has opened up a can of worms,
 No thought of protecting the bass as they migrate to their breeding grounds in creeks and rivers that do not have man made barriers.
It would have been more definitive if they would have named the areas of rivers and dams where bass could be targeted.
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Re: Closed Bass Season
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2014, 01:14:01 PM »
It has opened up a can of worms,
 No thought of protecting the bass as they migrate to their breeding grounds in creeks and rivers that do not have man made barriers.
It would have been more definitive if they would have named the areas of rivers and dams where bass could be targeted.
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In an open system (with no man made barriers), I don't think the fish congregate until they hit the tidal waters. All tidal waters are covered so...........
I think only a small percentage of resident fish actually shoot off to spawn on a given year, so why protect those fish that are not spawning with a closed season as was previously the case?



In Bass' natural range in Qld, I'm wondering how many open systems there are? Nerang R  no, Commera R no, Pimpama R no, Albert R no, Logan R no, Brisbane R no, Bremer R no, South Pine R - hhhhmmm??, North Pine R no, Caboolture R no, Pummicstone feeders yes but mostly tidal any way, Mooloola no, South Maroochy R no, North Maroochy yes but tidal most of way to Eumundi, Noosa R yes but mostly tidal, Sandy Straights feeders many are covered by green zones, Mary R no.

 As I've said a hundred times before; we really don't want stocked bass with unknown genetic variability joining the spawning, but they do. They're stocked for the purpose of recreational fishing, why protect them in waters above a weir / barrage etc. I'ts like buying a new car & the gubberment telling you that you're not allowed to drive it for 3 months of the year, crazy....

 

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