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Mary River cod fingerlings.
« on: August 01, 2015, 08:26:38 AM »
Extract  from LAFMA newsletter

"Hanwood Fish Hatchery of Murgon has been given the go ahead to produce/sell Mary River cod fingerlings. They are allowed 6 pair of  brood stock but the fish must be collected outside the Mary River catchment. Craig has not had much success in procuring brood stock at this stage."
Anyone know if any other hatcheries have approval?
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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2015, 08:10:26 PM »
I will trade them some for goldfish.......................


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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2015, 10:36:51 PM »
Even though bag limits, size limits, closed waters (around barriers etc) & closed seasons apply to MRCs outside of the Mary R catchment, I won't be a happy camper if I hear of anyone taking breeding stock from the Brisbane, lower / mid Stanley, Bremer catchments without some consultation & I'll want to know where the parents of any fingerlings came from before I'm happy to buy any. 
A hasty decision or suspect activity could cost a shonky breeder a lot of business via other species purchases, or lack there of..... 

Transparency & communication is the key to good outcome on this touchy subject.  :thumb

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2015, 07:38:58 AM »
Good to see some common sense has finally prevailed.

We (Caboolture) would certainly be happy to help him collect some brood stock out of the Stanley. Given we put over 15000 in there, there should be a few around.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2015, 10:05:30 AM »
Personally, I wouldn't want to see Stocked Impoundment Permit money put towards a fish that the average fisherman cannot target for over one third of the year.  If governments want to save the Mary River Cod they should not use recreational anglers funds to do it.  They should first have the farmers fix the river banks, and re snag the rivers so the fish can rejuvenate themselves.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2015, 08:12:33 PM »
Good to see some common sense has finally prevailed.

We (Caboolture) would certainly be happy to help him collect some brood stock out of the Stanley. Given we put over 15000 in there, there should be a few around.

Stocked as part of MRCR&RP and given to you for free to stock actually. I struggle to understand why you(and others) would be happy to help a commercial hatchery remove the large breeders. These are the end result of decades of work and natural selection, now with a closed season they finally may get a chance to actually spawn and give some recruitment. Exchanging these priceless large breeding fish for hormone induced fingerlings that you have to pay for seems like lunacy to me.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2015, 08:20:25 PM »
To answer your question Ray. One other hatchery should be operating next season, Russell has broodstock out in ponds atm, we have only 2 pair out in ponds at Gerry Cook Hatchery this year.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 06:50:49 AM »
This is a two faced argument people you do realise that

So the hateries that do have brood stock, they got theirs through the miracle of ????

Did their fish just happen to naturally just float into their possession to both of them in the great flood of 1723?

I understand people have alliances with other people and had disagreements with others, but someone needs to make me understand this more.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 07:12:33 AM »
I believe that most of the Hatcheries with brood stock acquired these through the Mary River Cod Recovery Program, although I do recall someone requesting brood stock from the last Kirkleagh Klassic.  In reality, as Volunteer Fish Stockers, we buy fish and stock waters with money raised from recreational anglers; that is where our responsibility and ownership ends.  If anyone takes these fish by any legal method we, the stockers, cannot do anything about it.  Unfortunately, if DAF have given a permit to obtain brood stock, we really can't do sh!t, except express our disapproval.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2015, 07:54:40 AM »
"I never got the logic of a hatchery taking brood stock from a fishery built on community funds, then have the audacity to sell the fish produced from those fish back to the fishery where the brood stock came from in the first place."

Are there any hatcheries that still gather their broodstock from the wild ?
Over the years I have seen different hatcheries gathering broodstock from NPD,Hinze,Maroon and Baroon Pocket.
From some of the comments made in this thread it would appear that some people are also against  the jungle perch re establishment program in SEQ.
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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 08:23:50 AM »
Jungle Perch are not on the "no take" list Ray.  Mary River Cod are currently listed as endangered.  Have you seen the sh!t storm that erupted over Cecil the lion?  Can we, as responsible recreational anglers really promote the targeting of an Endangered Species?  I questioned SWFSA's approval to stock MRC from RFEP funds, and I still question the approval to stock them with SIP Funds.  Yes, I would love to see Mary River Cod re-established but I don't believe recreational anglers should have to pay for what primary producers ruined.  Jungle Perch stocking is a completely different issue, because a, they are not on the Endangered Species list and b, the intention should be to substitute these for Golden and Silver Perch in the eastern waterways.  Golden Perch shouldn't be in the Brisbane, Bremer and Pine River systems.

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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2015, 12:29:05 PM »
From some of the comments made in this thread it would appear that some people are also against  the jungle perch re establishment program in SEQ.
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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2015, 03:25:59 PM »
Just sayin you have more chance of catching a mary than a jp in seq and please explain why posts referring to jp captures in the gc hinterland are removed.
As for cowboys do you not have to possess a collection permit to collect brood stock and would this not be regulated by fisheries,
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Re: Mary River cod fingerlings.
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2015, 05:06:14 PM »
I haven't seen any posts regarding JP captures removed.  Do you have a date, so I can check the log?

 

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