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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bushwacker on December 01, 2011, 03:44:30 PM
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Was wondering what line people preffer and whats best for use on baitcaster reels be it braid, co-polymer, mono or other ? Does braid offer any casting advantage at all ? please let me know what you use yourself.
Cheers
Steve
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100% Braid, on all my reels. 20lb Bionic, Finns or Sunline Super PE. If you're on a budget, try 14lb Fireline, but don't go any heavier than that with Fireline.
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Steve like Dale says they all work up to a point but personally I wouldn't allow Fireline anywhere near a baitcaster; too much memory and it "fluffs" The other line I really like is Sufix 823, It's working well for me. I also tried Platypus Braid but it has to be wound on very tight, not always possible out in the boat. It has a tendency to dig down into the reel under any sort of a load. Works great on Spin reels tho. A mate of mine like his zero stretch mono but it's braid all the way for me.
Cheers,
JD
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The only braid ive really fished with is Tuff Line 15lb and Finns Origional PRT in 6lb on spin gear and preffer the Finns and will prob look around the 10lb mark maybe heavier, Fireline i have not heard anything good about.
All this research is for my new pflueger patriarch xt on the way and do not really want to muck around too much just use it. A replacement or other option from my ABU Black Max 3600 That i do not want to use very much.
Cheers guys
Steve
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I just put 8lb Platapus Classic on three low profile , 2 banax and a Daiwa BS2.
It works OK, but why not as a good tackle shop.... I mean I'm going to use this line...
I suppose you want soft line, a friend gets cheap blue braid on ebay...
It casts well on his Curado..
What did you think of the ABU Black Max?
randell
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Steve,
You're getting a nice reel, so best not to skimp on the line you put on it. You can't go wrong with either Sufix 823 or Harro's Bionic. You didn't say what you were going after but I assume it's Bass. If you want an each way bet for a bit of Cod or Yella fishing 20lb in either of those will cast well and in the event of a birdy, they clean up reasonably well...That's depending on how major the nest is of course. If it's Bass only then you really don't need to go heavier than 15lb. Some tackle shops will spool the reel for you and only charge for the no of metres they put on it. The catch here is that they may not keep the line you want on their bulk stock for the spooling machine.
Cheers mate,
John
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Randell the ABU Black Max goes bloody good i think theres no adjustable mag brake but still cast very well i landed a very nice mid 40's bass this afternoon with it and its great.
JD Isnt it ever a nice reel ! ;D Im aiming to use it for Bass / Saratoga / Cod and Yellowbelly , Thats just what seems to find my lures ;) I was thinking between 10 and 15 would be ok but do you sacrifice ability to cast borderline small lures with the heavier line ? Currently i only have 2 baitcast rods from 7 to 10 kg so thats something i was thinking about with line choice aswell.
Cheers guys
Steve
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I run Finns on everything.
Most have 10lb.
20lb on the barra gear.
You know that stuff breaks at 9thousand lb, so will not go heavier.
Have bionic on one reel that has been there for like a million years.
I just get Charletons to spool off their bulk rolls these days.
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Man of many words and wisdom Steven ... but thanks haha.
Someone told me today neither finns or bionic was any good down at go fishing nerang... So im trying to peice it together from all this.
Steve
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a lot of braid is more choice than anything else. I love limp soft and thin braid. Always used spiderwire stealth, its still one of the thinnest for capacity around, and never found the need to change to another. Others like fused line, stiffer line, brightly coloured line. I've noticed Big W flogging at quite reasonable prices of late (for Australian prices, I'll still be buying mine from the US)
If you like to brag about catching fish on light rated line you cant go past the number 8 fencing wire called fireline. Virtually guaranteed to break at no less than twice the rated breaking strain.
Want to brag you caught a metre barra on 10lb line, use fireline ;)
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well everyone always has an opinion mate
let us know what you end up with
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There are differences in Braid that many of us don't think about. The higher priced braids are designed for deep saltwater work. They are extremely fine and have piss poor abrasion resistance. The coarser braids, Bionic, Platypus, Finns and Sunline SuperPE, are thick for the strength. The guys at Nerang will probably tell you they're not as good because they are thicker (maybe they have less profit margin in them too.) For your sort of fishing, you want abrasion resistance, and for that you need thickness. I normally use 30lb on most of my reels, then I can use it for Barra or Bass, you just need to change leader size.
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All good Steven and will do, Dale i think they where mainly aiming at there profit margine he was saying how such and such brand braid was $70 for 150m ...... i cant recall the name for the life of me now.
Im sort of thinking Bionic, Suffix or Finns now around the 15lb mark. Will everyone stop talking about fireline it makes me cringe :walkplank
Steve
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Regarding the reel, I suppose we all get used to a favourite.
I have about 4 different brands of bait casters and I always go back to my Silver Max.
It just fits so well like an extension of the hand and if they have produced the Black Max to feel the same then thats the way I will go when I can't keep this one alive any longer.
Gordon
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70 bucks for 150 meters?
Fcuk That.
My spools cost 20-25 bucks at the most. And its not a top shot. Some mono for grip and the rest braid.
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Harro's Bionic Braid...Love that stuff...
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Good on you steven you made me chuckle haha yeah $70 for 150m is rediculous... hmm Bionic everyone says hey ....
Gordon that black max is built like a tank and casts well its a great reelk but do not want to use it as my main baitcaster it came from a special family friend.
Steve
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Ah Steve
You have reminded me, the last BC reel I bought was an ABU, I just took a look at it. It's a Revo SX, Its a ripper of a reel and just had a look it has 20lb Bionic on it.
Cheers
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Funny how things happen like that Sel :popcorn)
Im pretty sure ill go with Bionic now from what ive heard more than likely 15lb
Steve
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power pro is much better imho
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Hi Beau,
I like Power Pro mate but mainly for heavier work. I have 2 baitcasters rigged with it one 30lb and one 20lb and they work a treat. I tried some in 15lb on a bass reel and it just didn't cast as well so I tried some 12lb Sufix 823 and it is heaps better. The Power Pro is great stuff and great value for money but I reckon Harro's Bionic is better.
Cheers mate,
JD
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I've had sunline castaway PE 16lb on my bass baitcaster and it has copped a flogging, I mean literally thousands of casts and hundreds of fish. I have reversed it four times now to use the fresher line underneath that is outside casting range. Yep, it cost me $70 for a 150m spool but it's over four years old now and I reckon it still breaks above 12lb and I fish it with confidence.
For the larger breaking strains I still stick to 8 strand PE's as they seem to have a better abrasion resistance than fused lines when dragged through timber.
Park
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You're right about that Castaway mate, I've got some 50lb on an ABU 6500 I keep for heavier duty stuff like timber. Mine's been on the reel for a few years and it's worth the money. It's just a bit hard to really justify that sort of dollars for a spool of braid . But it casts really well, and is pretty forgiving in the (odd) chance of a birdsnest.
John
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Funny you say "odd" chance of birdsnest .. only time it happens to me is when im stupid enough to let someone who thinks they can use a baitcaster have a go! :Hunting) :Hunting) :Hunting)
Steve
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Yeh, definately an acquired taste, but once you get into it you find it hard to go back to a spin reel. Accuracy is so much better. I have an Alphas with 15lb Toray (only 100m spool) trhat cost $40 and it's great. Also have a Banax Sedna that I reckon is very under rated with 10lb Sufix 823. Went up the Wilson River near home yesterday arvo and got acouple of Bass, one on surface and one on a "crankbait".
Cheers mate,
JD
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Well i got the reel yesterday and couldnt resist chucking some 10lb ice blue copolymer on it just to test it out before i go get me some Bionic.
Tell me how the hell ive been fishing without a good baitcaster for 15 years? Its pretty amazing how you can nock on logs and let a lure drop into the water, scored 3 bass on surface in 10 min doing just that this arvo. Casts a mile aswell. Every adjustment comes with a positive audible click its smooth and very light and i love it.
Sorry just had to share ;D
Steve
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Sharing is good Steve, I love baitcasters, I've got a mate who says I'm crazy, but I just like the mechanics of these reels; particularly the good ones.
John
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I never made the switch to braid :OMG Maxima, Schnieder and the cheap bulk lines from Big W work wonders for me
Cheers
Wal
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Bite your tongue "holic"! Never made the braid indeed. That's different strokes for diffrent folks for sure.
JD
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I know, I know. Such sacrilige from someone that fishes every day is inexcusable :Hunting) I just prefer mono
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Anyone have any arguements to Finns PRT 15lb ? ....Its green ... what i ended up buying and spooling up tonight.
Feels good, casts well.
Steve
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Anyone have any arguements to Finns PRT 15lb ? ....Its green ... what i ended up buying and spooling up tonight.
Feels good, casts well.
Steve
I've been running it on one reel for a short time. Can't fault it to date.
Cheers,
fitz..
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Anyone have any arguements to Finns PRT 15lb ? ....Its green ... what i ended up buying and spooling up tonight.
Feels good, casts well.
Steve
Yep
it leaves green fluffy stuff on your fingers and line guide when new.
Other than that its got the goods.
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I've been running 50lb Finns on a few reels. They've done a couple of trips to PNG and a few Awoonga trips without any issues.
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Got it wet this arvo.. not a problem :youbeauty
Sounds like it will hold up then Dale
Steve
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I never made the switch to braid :OMG Maxima, Schnieder and the cheap bulk lines from Big W work wonders for me
Cheers
Wal
I'm with Wal on this one. One of my mates use's braid and the amount of times i have seen him run into trouble with horse fish using braid and losing it allways makes me laugh. Horse's for course's I suppose. :thumbsup
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Ive been playing a bit with the new line and snagged a stalk of jhonson grass on the back cast and got a small overrun, Came out no worries at all just being gentle not tugging on the line. i think its great !
Steve
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Fins is good stuff, I've used the lighter 4lb stuff on a threadline, and some 12lb on a baitcaster. It casts well and doesn't give me any problems. Can't see any reason why I'd ever go back to mono, but I do have a mate who insists that low stretch mono is great stuff. Whatever blows your hair back I guess.
JD